On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 01:45:40PM -0500, knarf wrote: > I'm really not sure what your point is...
Since when does Savage need a point? Although in response to his words, of everyone I've known, the person who was most accomplished at objectifying women was a lesbian housemate of mine many years ago. If I had cut a swath through the women of Santa Cruz like she did, I would have been tarred, feathered and run out of town on a rail. > > Cheers, > frank > > David Savage <ozsav...@gmail.com> wrote: > >Guys are the only ones who objectify women: > > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgOcgdX1H1I&feature=youtu.be > > > >Bless 'em. > > > >On 28 November 2013 19:22, Derby Chang <der...@iinet.net.au> wrote: > >> > >> As many have mentioned, this is one of the most interesting threads > >for a > >> while and I'm glad Frank brought it up. > >> > >> My initial reaction was, photography is inherently sexual when > >pointed at > >> people. How can it not be when it is a single image focused on a > >subject. It > >> wants me to look and I love that. But I thought about it some more > >> > >> What I admire about Frank's photographs (and not only his, many > >others on > >> PDML) is the humanising aspect of them. Those couriers taking risks > >in > >> traffic, a blur that you try to avoid - he shows them > >après-couriering. > >> Their bravado and frankly, well-toned bodies, are something to > >admire. That > >> isn't sexualising. I am admiring their life force > >> > >> So too with Alina. She is no more a object in front of Bruce's camera > >than > >> Frank's buddies. When she throws in a gorgeous handstand and writes > >about > >> herself in such a positive way, you know it is that she is as much > >> co-creator as Bruce, with his consumate command of his skills. > >> > >> Do I think my photos are objectifying? Perhaps. I never really know > >these > >> people anywhere like Frank or Bruce. Sometimes, rarely, I have a > >chat. > >> Mostly it is about the pleasure of observation. Which is why I > >steered my > >> blurb along this theme of a brief connection. They are no longer just > >> elements in a composition. Wide lens, 2m or less, and I can't help > >but feel > >> a jolt when they make eye contact. Such a thrilling moment. I really > >can't > >> pull back from the shot thinking about rules or balance when the > >chance > >> presents itself, and really couldn't shoot any other way. > >> > >> -- > >> > >> der...@iinet.net.au > >> http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >> PDML@pdml.net > >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above > >and > >> follow the directions. > > “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
