II failed to mention the 16-45 and 
was about to do so, but you covered
It well, Mark.
J

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> On Jan 29, 2016, at 12:48 PM, Mark C <pdml-m...@charter.net> wrote:
> 
> You left out the DA 16-45 f4, which might be the sweet spot in terms of 
> performance and price, though it is now discontinued.
> 
> FWIW - I have the 17-70, the 16-45 and the first version of the 18-55. The 
> 17-70 is a little soft wide open but sharpens up even at f 5.6. The zoom 
> range is good for a general purpose lens. I have not had any issues with the 
> SDM focusing -it is fast, quiet and accurate. But I'm ever paranoid that it 
> will up and quit on me given the experiences of others.
> 
> The 16-45 is distinctly better than the 17-70 at f4 and marginally better 
> when stopped down, but 45mm is just a tad short for my tastes. I have not 
> used the 18-55 for years - my recollection was that it was a pretty decent 
> lens, though.
> 
> That said - I doubt that any of these will be on par with the 50 f1.4.
> 
> Mark
> 
>> On 1/29/2016 11:27 AM, Ed Keeney wrote:
>> Hello all!
>> 
>> I have the following in my bag at the moment...
>> 
>>    Pentax K-50
>>      SMC-DAL 18-55 3.5/5.6
>>      SMC-DA 50-200 4-5.6
>>      SMC-FA 50 1.4
>> 
>> I find that the image quality of the 50 is outstanding when comparing
>> to the other 2 lenses (primarily the 18-55).  Not that the kit lens is
>> bad, but the 50 is very sharp.  I attribute this to the fixed aperture
>> and overall better quality glass.
>> 
>> I'm thinking of saving for a new higher quality lens (aren't we all?).
>> At this point, I'm not sure which direction to take.  Do I look at the
>> current lineup (below) or try to find a second hand older lens.
>> 
>> The current fixed aperture zoom lens lineup from the Ricoh site (US 
>> prices)...
>> 
>>   PENTAX DA 12-24mm f/4 ED AL [IF]     $ 699.95
>> 
>>   PENTAX smc DA* 16-50mm f/2.8 ED AL [IF] SDM     $1049.95
>> 
>>   PENTAX smc DA 17-70mm f/4 AL [IF] SDM     $ 499.95
>> 
>>   PENTAX HD D FA 24-70mm f/2.8ED SDM WR     $1299.95
>> 
>>   PENTAX smc DA* 50-135mm f/2.8 ED [IF] SDM     $1049.95
>> 
>>   PENTAX smc DA* 60-250mm F4 [IF] SDM     $1299.95
>> 
>> 
>> To start, I am looking at the DA 17-70 to roughly cover the same range
>> as the 18-55 and luckily it's the lowest priced one.  B&H has it
>> listed for $350, Amazon $300.
>> 
>> Online reviews are hit and miss on this (SDM focusing issues).
>> 
>> I'd like to get PDML thoughts, so fire away!
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> Ed
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/edkeeney/
> 
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