He misrepresents the position, trotting out some of the standard Leave claims in a very caricatural way.
The EU certainly needs reforming, but not necessarily in the ways that tories such as Fellowes want, and the UK should have been part of it; in fact, leading the reform, effectively, and not just grandstanding for the sake of the loonies in their respective parties. B > On 8 Jul 2016, at 21:08, John <sesso...@earthlink.net> wrote: > > Scroll down the page and there's a transcript. > >> On 7/8/2016 3:38 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: >> Rather than force us all to listen to the pompous ass for the whole >> thing, perhaps you could summarise the reasons for us. >> >> B >> >>> On 8 Jul 2016, at 20:31, John <sesso...@earthlink.net> wrote: >>> >>> I was listening to the Diane Rehm Show on NPR yesterday and near the end >>> of the interview with Julian Fellows they touched on Brexit. His >>> comments are the first time I've heard anyone articulate reasons for >>> leaving the EU that I could really understand. >>> >>> https://thedianerehmshow.org/shows/2016-07-07/julian-fellowes-belgravia >>> >>> >>> >>>>> On 7/8/2016 11:56 AM, steve harley wrote: >>>>> On 2016-07-06 11:42 , Steve Cottrell wrote: >>>>> Like you, I love my country and I don't want to see it watered down by a >>>>> conglomerate entity composed of politicians from across the union, some >>>>> with their own agendas that bear no parallel with the UK's interests. >>>> >>>> i'm just reading this thread through today, and (though i've followed it >>>> closely elsewhere) it's very helpful to me to hear the articulations of >>>> a few European individuals on the subject … >>>> >>>> your statement above resonates with the concepts of federalism and >>>> state's rights in the US, which in essence balance power between the >>>> national and state governments and promote the states' keeping (some of) >>>> their individuality >>>> >>>> one could say that over centuries, much "blending" has occurred, but >>>> that it was a gradual process and there is still plenty of room for >>>> difference among the states; unfortunately some of the major differences >>>> are in equality and human rights >>>> >>>> just a thought: i wonder if the US states were less "individualistic" if >>>> there would be more or fewer gay-bashing laws, more or less horrible >>>> prison treatment, poverty, defunding of education, etc.? in addition, >>>> we've had several of our own influxes of immigrants which have prompted >>>> waves of intolerance, and there is much variance among the states in >>>> attitudes toward same >>> >>> -- >>> Science - Questions we may never find answers for. >>> Religion - Answers we must never question. >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. > > -- > Science - Questions we may never find answers for. > Religion - Answers we must never question. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
