I agree with you fully.
But still it is fun for me, thinking of possibilities to make the focusing process more intelligent, meaning faster and more accurate, but not more accurate than needed. If the system knows the depth of field, it can take the allowable error into account and optimize speed with that information.

I did not check all my lenses. But I checked an old and a new Sigma lens. Both lenses have a lens ID in the metadata that is used by several different lenses with totally different minimum focus distances. So it must be another lens code informing the camera about the minimum focus distance. If that is true, than LR gets more information to show the correct lens name, and not: Lens1 or lens2 or lens3 as it does now sometimes.

And why is the camera spending time in calculating the hyperfocal distance? Is it using that? And why is it passing that information to us in the metadata file? And also the circle of diffusion it used in the calculation? Who will use that info down the line? I realize that if I get information, I start to think about it. And if I donot see the logic, I think harder .....

Greetz, Jos



On 18-Jul-16 06:15, P.J. Alling wrote:
I don't think the camera knows the minimum focus distance on any lens that doesn't have that data on it's chip. So it's only available for some F series lenses and later. It might also be available from the A lenses supplied with the MZ/ZX-M I think there were two lenses that were pretty much the same as their FA counterparts, a 35-80 and a 80-200mm, which might be pretty rare as the FA versions were pretty inexpensive to begin with.

I really don't think that the autofocus system is smart enough nor are the lenses standardized enough for the system to interpolate anything about focus throw.

The AF system misses the focus point and simply tries again, running through the entire range of the lens. If after a certain amount of effort, which seems to be random, but probably isn't, it simply gives up. The K-5II gives up a lot less often, and gets the right focus more often, than earlier cameras but it still gives up eventually.

On 7/17/2016 12:46 PM, Jos from Holland wrote:
The metadata also shows the minimum focus distance. How can the camera know, even when it does not know which lens is mounted?

Only the lens can tell the minimum focus distance.

But if the camera knows the minimum and maximum focus distance, than it could estimate the focus distance!

Is that why it hunts now and than: to throw the AF between minimum and maximum focus distance and interpolate values in between?:-)



Greetz, Jos

On 17-Jul-16 18:11, Larry Colen wrote:


Jos from Holland wrote:
Going through the metadata of K5 and K1 files I observed that the
hyper-focal distance is available, based on the applied aperture and
focal length.

Wouldn't it be nice if this info was visible on camera for manual
adjustment, or even better an select-able auto focus mode with
hyper-focal priority?

I wish the lens mounts would return focus distance to the camera body.

If they can engrave it on the lens, then they can know it electronically.


Also the circle of confusion is given: 0.02mm for K5 and 0.03mm for K1.
Considering the a full frame camera will / can be used for larger
prints, I would prefer to keep the circle at 0.02mm for K1 as well. Or
better: user selection of he circle size resulting in corresponding
hyper focal distance.
Greetz, Jos










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