here's another comment on Diamond's GUNS, GERMS, AND STEEL, by Barkley 
Rosser, a pen-l alumnus.

>From: "J. Barkley Rosser, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Jim Devine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>         "Brad De Long" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: more on Diamond
>Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 18:20:12 -0400
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>Over the weekend I took a closer look at Diamond's book in light of the 
>discussion I have seen.  My opinion is somewhat improved, although one 
>should really look at some of the books it draws on.  It is well done, but 
>quite a bit of this has been
>said before.  However, Diamond does a fair job of mentioning such works in 
>his Readings section in the back, noting McNeill's book as being 
>especially influential (McNeill wrote a praising blurb on the dust cover 
>that I saw).  Also, Zinsser was published in 1935 by Little Brown out of 
>Boston.

>It has been well known for some time that disease played a major role in 
>the conquest of Austronesia and the Americas.  The question thus still 
>gets back to Africa as I mentioned before.  I looked closely at his 
>discussion of this and think he makes some plausible points.  One is this 
>business about the east-west axis versus the north-south axis, that it is 
>easier to transfer crops and technologies east-west as could be done in 
>Eurasia than north-south which is the axis in Africa.  That may be the 
>biggie, actually.  Diamond clearly recognizes that Africans have more 
>disease resistance than Eurasians and also argues that the other crucial 
>factor was the lack of easily domesticated animals in Africa that was a 
>key, relative to Eurasia, and raises the spectre of Africans on rhinos 
>conquering Rome.

>I miswrote before about dogs and measles.  Measles came from rinderpest 
>from cattle, but not a big deal.  Diamond does
>link even some of the diseases from wild animals with crop production, an 
>interesting point.  Malaria, an African originated disease, and one of the 
>really big killers, tended to arise near agricultural villages.  Also, 
>bubonic plague, although from wild rats, was tied to crop production as 
>the rats tended to be attracted by grains.

>I'm still not sure it is the great work of genius of the 1990s, but it 
>does a pretty credible job and deals with quite a few difficult
>issues.  It is also nice to see an effort to come up with a non-racist 
>explanation for this stuff.
>Barkley Rosser

Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] &  http://liberalarts.lmu.edu/~jdevine

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