For one thing, the bourgeoisie do not do the dying in their wars. Just the internecine, working class mass murder is an enormous plus for interests of the bourgeoisie as far as any war is concerned. Charles Brown >>> Yoshie Furuhashi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 04/30/99 05:01PM >>> Charles to Wojtek: <<<<Again I do not think that there is an overall master plan or capitalist conspiracy to take over CEE. I view it as a rather incoherent process of muddling through, with no master plan, no coherent strategy, conflicting interests, great uncertainty, and even greater short-term opportunism.>>>> <<Yea, the bourgeoisie are crazy like a fox. Amazing how they keep coming up winners. Would you describe WWI, WWII and most capitalist war this way or is this war different , some new phenomenon ? How about capitalist economics ? Hasn't capitalist war always been significantly anarchistic like capitalist production ? Charles Brown>> I take it that Wojtek is an empiricist, not a Hegelian. Yoshie