quoth Doug, from LBO #90, which I received today: >One of the depressing things about this war [against Serbia] is all the side-taking that's been going on. Almost every position was built around the endorsement of some nationalism or other; internationalism, difficult enough in practice, could hardly find a friend even in principle. Either you were pro-NATO or pro-Milo. Either the Serbs were channeling Hitler and propagating a Holocaust, or they were (ludicrously) the last bastion of true socialism in Europe. ... Either the KLA are freedom fighters or the scum of the earth. Any notion that all armed ethnicization thrives on exclusion and displacement disappeared, the ideological battle reduced to a conflict over how to distribute black and white hats.< sounds like pen-l to me! I can even identify the names of the people that Doug is referring to. I say: let's drop all nationalism, whether it's ethnic nationalism or the anti-nationalistic nationalism of the US (in which the US is identified with the world's public interest), and bring back internationalism. Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] & http://clawww.lmu.edu/Faculty/JDevine/jdevine.html