In Doug's article, he writes; >That faith in inevitable self-destruction has deeply unfortunate political consequences. < Even if catastrophist predictions _do_ work out, and the US falls into a Depression-type disaster (pulling the rest of the world in even deeper than they already are), without a mass movement ready to replace capitalism with something else (and hopefully better), capitalism will recover, just as it did in the 1930s. And a collapse might encourage fascism rather than socialism. Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] & http://clawww.lmu.edu/Faculty/JDevine/jdevine.html