First I would like to thank those in OZ for providing sharper perspectives and analyses for all of us. I have long supported an end to military aid by the US to Indonesia and have supported independence for East Timor. But I must say that I am watching these recent developments very warily. Do we really know what is going on? In any case, in light of that and the thread on geezers in academia, I thought I would throw something out about teaching and all this, at least my teaching. I teach in a pretty conservative school and regularly teach Principles of Economics. Needless to say it is a constant effort to try to shake these people up and make them think etc etc etc. A lot of them are business majors who don't even want to be in there and resent the hell out of me. Aware of this on the first day of the semester I always give a "pep talk" on why studying economics is important even if someone finds it boring or hard. I usually give a speech about how many world events are driven from behind the scenes by economic motives, even if these do not determine everything, and usually give some provocative examples. During most of this decade I have been stuck on providing a particular contrast, namely that between US policy in Kuwait and the Persian Gulf and that in East Timor. It usually is not hard to get students to recognize that the reason the US fought the PG war was because of oil and not particularly because of all the highblown rhetoric about defending poor little Kuwait against an allegedly evil invader. But then I would point out that the legal situation has been almost the same with East Timor, invaded in 1975 by a much larger and more powerful neighbor illegally, an invasion condemned by the UN. But nobody was doing anything about it. Why not? Of course this became a lesson in other things as well, since, hey, we are supposed to be teaching students about "global awareness" as well as "critical thinking" (or at least we used to be supposed to be doing that before the latest round of dumbing down the curriculum really got going). I would ask, "Can anyone tell us where East Timor is and who its powerful invading neighbor is?" Sometimes I would actually get somebody who would know. But more often nobody could answer either question. I would then give hints, such as that the invading neighbor has the fourth largest population in the world (this would allow for asking who has the first, second, and third largest populations, which seems to be easier to get out of them), and that it has the largest Muslim population of any nation in the world. If this did not draw forth an answer (sometimes by now it was guessed) I would start asking them where in the world we are talking about? Usually by the time it got pinned down to Southeast Asia somebody would finally get it. Anyway, it has proven to be useful exercise in political economy. I shall not mourn if it disappears as an example due to East Timor finally achieving its independence, although I suppose none of us should hold our breaths too long over what form that might take. Barkley Rosser