I appreciate the sentiments, but what was it in my remarks that set 
off this explosion? If you think I'm opposed to social democratic 
policies, you're badly misinformed.

Doug


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>Subject:               [PEN-L:21439] Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: 
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>This whole discussion about social democracy and marxist
>economics disturbs me (disgusts me?) on two levels.  First, on the
>practical level, if it weren't for SD I would never have had the chance
>to arrive above the level of the working class.  My grand parents
>were miners, my parents were able to become school teachers,
>and I and my wife could become professionals --all on the basis of
>social democratic party politics. ( My grandparents and parents
>were both active in labour/social democratic politcal parties
>politics.)  so the kind of sh.. that we get from the rigid marxists is
>not something I have much respect for.  My grandparents and
>parents were deeply involved with the Winnipeg General Strike and
>the basic strikes and social strugles for human, racial and political
>rights during the 1930s through the 1960s so this kind of academic
>shit I don't want to hear about.
>
>I have done research in Sweden, Britain, Yugoslavia, Australia, and
>eastern Europe (and published in "acceptable" academic (including
>Marxist economic journals such as Monthly Review and Canadian
>Dimension.) The level of discussion of soci    al democratic
>economics on this list is appalling.  I would not accept it as
>acceptable at a second year  university level.  If we are so ignorant
>of social democratic theory and practice we would be better off not
>to advertise the fact.  The same should be said of institutional
>theory from Berles and Meanes, Galbraith, Darity and all the other
>institutionalists.
>
>Pen-L should not parade its ignorance of alternative economic
>paradigms.
>
>Paul Phillips,
>Economics,
>University of Manitoba
>>  Michael Perelman wrote:
>>
>>  >Another Swedish question.  Doesn't Sweden have one of the most
>>  >concentrated industrial structures in the world?
>>
>>  Yup, think it does. The Wallenberg family's Investor trust controls
>>  some enormous portion of Swedish industry. Such structures are good
>>  for social democracy; dispersed stockowner structures like the U.S.'s
>>  are its enemy.
>>
>>  Doug
>>

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