Zimmerman was the US embassador to Yugoslavia at the time of the breakup of the country. The various parties met at Lisbon in Portugal to devise a formula for cantonization of Bosnia on the Swiss model. This was agreed to. Zimmerman, on behalf of the US informed/advised the Muslims (Izobegovic) not to agree because they (the muslims) "could have it all" and not share power with the other ethnic groups ( who, together, formed a majority of the population of Bosnia-Herzigovina). So it was Zimmerman and the US which fomented and encouraged the civil war in Bosnia ( and ultimantely in Kosova). How anyone could accept this man's interpretation of history is beyond me. Aggh!
Paul Phillips, Economics, University of Manitoba From: "Devine, James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED] '" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [PEN-L:31712] RE: Re: the 1898 war on Spain and imperialism Date sent: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 20:44:18 -0800 Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand > this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. > > ------_=_NextPart_001_01C28098.2BF6E3E0 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > This afternoon on U.S. National Public Radio, I heard one of the main > news-readers, Robert Segal, interview an establishmentarian fellow who'd > written a book about the 1898 U.S. imperalist war against Spain, which > led > to the Spanish-American war and the U.S. conquest of Cuba, the > Philipines, > Guam, etc. > Ian writes: > > Would the person below be the culprit? > > FIRST GREAT TRIUMPH > How Five Americans Made Their Country a World Power > By Warren Zimmermann > Illustrated. 562 pages. Farrar, Straus & Giroux. $30. > > ... > > If the Cuban and Philippine revolutions against Spanish rule ''had > succeeded > even in the absence of American support, as would probably have been the > case, two weak independent countries would have emerged as a prey to > domestic division and foreign penetration,'' Mr. Zimmermann contends. > Mr. > Zimmermann is not blind either to the costs of empire, including the > heritage of animosity toward the United States in Cuba, or to the racist > impulsiveness of the more ardent members of the imperialist camp. But in > the > end, he is an enthusiast for Roosevelt, Lodge and company, believing > that > the American rise to power is what preserved the world from Nazism and > Communism, and that without the five men under his purview, our history > would have been different and not as good. > > ----------- > > yeah, that's him. He's worse than I thought. > Jim > > > ------_=_NextPart_001_01C28098.2BF6E3E0 > Content-Type: text/html; > charset="iso-8859-1" > > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> > <HTML> > <HEAD> > <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> > <META NAME="Generator" CONTENT="MS Exchange Server version 5.5.2653.12"> > <TITLE>RE: [PEN-L:31705] Re: the 1898 war on Spain and imperialism</TITLE> > </HEAD> > <BODY> > <BR> > <BR> > > <P><FONT SIZE=2>This afternoon on U.S. National Public Radio, I heard one of the >main</FONT> > <BR><FONT SIZE=2>news-readers, Robert Segal, interview an establishmentarian fellow >who'd</FONT> > <BR><FONT SIZE=2>written a book about the 1898 U.S. imperalist war against Spain, >which</FONT> > <BR><FONT SIZE=2>led</FONT> > <BR><FONT SIZE=2>to the Spanish-American war and the U.S. conquest of Cuba, >the</FONT> > <BR><FONT SIZE=2>Philipines,</FONT> > <BR><FONT SIZE=2>Guam, etc.</FONT> > <BR><FONT SIZE=2>Ian writes:</FONT> > </P> > > <P><FONT SIZE=2>Would the person below be the culprit?</FONT> > </P> > > <P><FONT SIZE=2>FIRST GREAT TRIUMPH</FONT> > <BR><FONT SIZE=2>How Five Americans Made Their Country a World Power</FONT> > <BR><FONT SIZE=2>By Warren Zimmermann</FONT> > <BR><FONT SIZE=2>Illustrated. 562 pages. Farrar, Straus & Giroux. $30.</FONT> > </P> > > <P><FONT SIZE=2>...</FONT> > </P> > > <P><FONT SIZE=2>If the Cuban and Philippine revolutions against Spanish rule >''had</FONT> > <BR><FONT SIZE=2>succeeded</FONT> > <BR><FONT SIZE=2>even in the absence of American support, as would probably have >been the</FONT> > <BR><FONT SIZE=2>case, two weak independent countries would have emerged as a prey >to</FONT> > <BR><FONT SIZE=2>domestic division and foreign penetration,'' Mr. Zimmermann >contends.</FONT> > <BR><FONT SIZE=2>Mr.</FONT> > <BR><FONT SIZE=2>Zimmermann is not blind either to the costs of empire, including >the</FONT> > <BR><FONT SIZE=2>heritage of animosity toward the United States in Cuba, or to the >racist</FONT> > <BR><FONT SIZE=2>impulsiveness of the more ardent members of the imperialist camp. >But in</FONT> > <BR><FONT SIZE=2>the</FONT> > <BR><FONT SIZE=2>end, he is an enthusiast for Roosevelt, Lodge and company, >believing</FONT> > <BR><FONT SIZE=2>that</FONT> > <BR><FONT SIZE=2>the American rise to power is what preserved the world from Nazism >and</FONT> > <BR><FONT SIZE=2>Communism, and that without the five men under his purview, our >history</FONT> > <BR><FONT SIZE=2>would have been different and not as good.</FONT> > </P> > > <P><FONT SIZE=2>-----------</FONT> > </P> > > <P><FONT SIZE=2>yeah, that's him. He's worse than I thought.</FONT> > <BR><FONT SIZE=2>Jim</FONT> > </P> > > </BODY> > </HTML> > ------_=_NextPart_001_01C28098.2BF6E3E0-- >