Councilor Shemano writes:
> We were just discussing that capitalism is theft, 
> appropriation of value, etc.  

I wasn't in on that. 

>Now, how did this play out at 
> the concert?  There were about 18,000 tickets sold.  Let's 
> conservatively say at an average price of $150, so there was 
> a gross of $2,700,000 for one night's work.  The Hollywood 
> Bowl got a leasing fee.  The crew was paid.  Simon and 
> Garfunkel either received a very hefty fee or a piece of the 
> gate shared with the promoter.  Now, from a Marxist 
> perspective, what were the class relations at play?  Whose 
> labor created what value?  Who exploited who?  How would it 
> work in PEN-Ltopia?

The hired folks (the crew, etc.) probably produced more value than they received in 
wages, so Marxian exploitation was going on: surplus-value was likely produced (though 
I don't know the details of the case). S&G are super-star members of the working 
class, so they probably got a chunk of the surplus-value on top of their wages. 
TicketMaster and the concert impresarios got the rest, I'd guess. I don't know who 
owns the Hollywood Bowl. If it's the city, then some of the surplus-value went to the 
(local part of the) state. 

The class relations part of the concert (exploitation, production of surplus-value) 
reflects the class relations of US capitalism as a whole. There was also some 
distribution of that s-v to S&G, TicketMaster, the impresarios, and perhaps the city. 

In the ideal socialism, the concert would have been organized democratically, by a 
pact between a democratically-run city and a workers' cooperative running the Bowl. 
S&G's company would also be a workers' cooperative (though I imagine that the 
performers would have more say than most in decisions). They wouldn't e earning 
super-star salaries. 
 
I wrote:
> >> Now why anyone would want to listen to Simon & Garfunkel 
> is beyond me.

David: 
> C'mon, you live in LA.  Listening to anything at the 
> Hollywood Bowl is worth it.  Pack the basket, drink wine and 
> stare at the stars --pure bliss.

it's true that with chemical help, anything sounds good. Even John Ashcroft's singing? 

(the last is a reference to "Fahrenheit 911." I can't say much about that flick that 
hasn't been said, except (as far as I was concerned) that it was preaching to the 
converted. I'd read too many reviews, so a lot of it wasn't surprising at all.  The 
best part was the aforementioned singing and seeing Paul Wolfowitz comb his hair.)

jd

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