Concerning the els(loop|for|while) controversy, I'd like to bring it back to the point that started it all: loop-else. There seems to be a fair amount of support for a loop-else contruct. Can we/Larry decide to accept loop-else, regardless of what other decisions need to be made? It would be a shame to see a really useful construct like that get tossed out because we're afraid we can't stop ourselves. I would rather see loop-else with no elsloop than lose the whole idea.
-Miko