IMHO Calling the Jala(a)li a.k.a "Hijri Shamsi" a.k.a "Hijri Khorshidi" calendar as "Persian" or "Iranian" calendar will not be preferred becuase
1. Jalali is the offical calendar of Afghanestan (although they may be using different month name).
2. By calling it Persian or Iranian Calendar you are be default limiting it's use to a country or region and that is not correct.
Thanks;
Hameed
>From: "Omid K. Rad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "'Behdad Esfahbod'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>CC: "'PersianComputing'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: IranL10nInfo
>Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 22:58:06 +0300
>
>On Sun, 9 May 2004, Behdad Esfahbod wrote:
> > Hi Omid,
>
>Hi,
>
> > A couple of points: The Jalaali calendar, can you please
> > tell me in which of the ECMA standards is it defined?
>
>None. I don't agree with that name for our current calendar. It is the
>name Microsoft has selected. I believe 'Persian calendar' or 'Iranian
>calendar' is more correct (and known) for the international name of
>"Hejrie Shamsi".
>
>
> > The same about the locale definitions.
>
>Which defenitions you mean exactly? Those fields that you see in the
>draft are properties of some globalization classes defined in the .NET
>Base Class Library (BCL), and we are defining their expected return
>values for Iran.
>
>
> > And next: You are saying that the Mono and DotGNU projects
> > "are published under noncommercial shared-source licenses".
> > I'm almost sure this is not the case. "shared-source" is the
> > old Microsoft trick. Both of this two platforms (Mono and
> > DotGNU) can be used for commercial purposes as well as
> > non-commercial, both for free. You can read more about why a
> > noncommercial-only license is not the best license at
> > http://www.fsf.org/
>
>Yes, they are open source, and each part of them is published under the
>terms of a GNU licence. You're right, you can create commercial
>applications for these platforms as well.
>
> > Later,
>
>:)
>
> > behdad
> >
>
>Omid
>
>
>
> > On Thu, 29 Apr 2004, Omid K. Rad wrote:
> >
> > > <<Iran Localization Info for Microsoft .NET>>
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello every body, especially my friends at FarsiWeb,
> > >
> > > I'm trying to point out some things here (even though you might
> > > already
> > > know) about .NET and our project.
> > >
> > > For your information:
> > >
> > > The .NET Common Language Infrastructure (CLI) and the C#
> > programming
> > > language were submitted to ECMA and ISO/IEC International
> > > standardization organizations a couple of years ago. The
> > submissions
> > > were ratified as standards after thorough investigations as:
> > >
> > > Standard ECMA-334 (C#)
> > >
> > http://www.ecma-international.org/publications/standards/Ecma-334.htm
> > >
> > > Standard ECMA-335 (CLI)
> > >
> > http://www.ecma-international.org/publications/standards/Ecma-335.htm
> > >
> > > Standard ISO/IEC 23270 (C#)
> > >
> > http://www.iso.ch/iso/en/CatalogueDetailPage.CatalogueDetail?CSNUMBER=
> > > 36
> > > 768
> > >
> > > Standard ISO/IEC 23271 (CLI)
> > >
> > http://www.iso.ch/iso/en/CatalogueDetailPage.CatalogueDetail?CSNUMBER=
> > > 36
> > > 769
> > >
> > > This resulted in raising many new open source movements
> > over .NET in
> > > the ICT community, amongst which there are three major projects by
> > > third parties that intend to implement versions of the .NET
> > Framework
> > > conforming to the base implementations that Microsoft has
> > done or is
> > > already underway. Those are:
> > >
> > > The Ximian's Mono Project sponsored by UNIX http://www.go-mono.com
> > >
> > > Free Software Foundation's Portable .NET
> > > http://www.dotgnu.org/pnet.html
> > >
> > > Corel's Rotor (Microsoft SSCLI) for FreeBSD
> > > http://msdn.microsoft.com/net/sscli
> > >
> > >
> > > All of these implementations are published under noncommercial
> > > shared-source licenses. This means we will have .NET applications
> > > running on a vast number of platforms quite soon, to name a
> > handful:
> > > Linux, Windows, Solaris, FreeBSD, HP-UX, and Mac OS X. We
> > have also a
> > > choice of more than 20 programming languages to choose from: APL,
> > > COBOL, Component Pascal, Eiffel, Fortran, Haskell, Jscript.NET,
> > > Mercury, Oberon, Pascal, Perl, Python, Smalltalk, Visual
> > Basic.NET, C#
> > > , Managed
> > > C++, etc.
> > >
> > > To make applications more interoperable between different
> > platforms,
> > > all of the implementations of CLI consider implementing the
> > > fundamental namespaces in the .NET Framework Class Library that
> > > reflect closely to what Microsoft releases. These don't include
> > > namespaces such as Microsoft.*, yet include those that are
> > referred to
> > > as pure .NET namespaces which System.Globalization
> > namespace is one of
> > > them.
> > >
> > > The System.Globalization is also available in .NET Compact
> > Framework -
> > > a lighter version of the framework that installs on
> > handheld devices.
> > >
> > > In the "Iran Localization Info for Microsoft .NET" project
> > > (IranL10nInfo for short) we have selected to work only on
> > those parts
> > > of .NET that are in the System.Globalization namespace (pure .NET).
> > > Any changes that Microsoft mekes on them are indirectly ported to
> > > every non-Microsoft implementations of the Class Library.
> > >
> > > Moreover, this project will automatically produce a good layout of
> > > information fields that we can simply use for other languages like
> > > Tajik and Afghan.
> > >
> > >
> > > So, we are trying to resolve some locale issues far beyond
> > Microsoft -
> > > a big name.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > All the best,
> > > Omid
> > > ______________________________________________________
> > > Iran Localization Info for Microsoft .NET
> > > http://www.idevcenter.com/projects/iranl10ninfo/draft/
> > >
> > >
> > > Other Open Source developments over ECMA CLI:
> > >
> > > Intel Lab's OCL (Open CLI Library)
> > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/ocl/
> > >
> > > Platform.NET http://sourceforge.net/projects/platformdotnet/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Articles:
> > >
> > > Linux World - Bringing the CLI to Open Source (Article)
> > > http://www.linuxworld.com/story/39216.htm?DE=1
> > >
> > > Devx - Peeking under the Lid of Open Source .NET CLI
> > Implementations
> > > http://www.devx.com/devx/article/9725
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Microsoft Open Source:
> > >
> > > MSDN - ECMA Standardization http://msdn.microsoft.com/net/ecma/
> > >
> > > MSDN - The Common Language Infrastructure (CLI)
> > > http://msdn.microsoft.com/netframework/using/understanding/cli
> > >
> > > Microsoft Share Source Home Page:
> > > http://www.microsoft.com/sharedsource/
> > >
> > >
>
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