Hi List members, I cannot remember the names of the repair people in Tampa so I
am sending this to the list. Here is the e-mail and contact information I
received. Here is his e-mail address:
dfgraves8...@yahoo.com
Hello,
We recently bought a Columbia Grafonola and now realize it needs to have the
motor rebuilt, and some springs taken care of and the arm worked on. Please
let me know as I am very interested in getting it repaired before Christmas.
Thank you very much,
David F. Graves
Isle of Capri
Treasure Island, FL
AOL IM - dfgraves8463
Yahoo IM - dfgraves8462
(727) 366-9927 cell
From deedeebl...@yahoo.com Sat Nov 17 19:36:20 2007
From: deedeebl...@yahoo.com (DeeDee Blais)
Date: Sat Nov 17 19:36:37 2007
Subject: [Phono-L] Tinfoil To Stereo
Message-ID: <998840.13323...@web37015.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
When I started collecting some 30+ years ago there
were very few books on talking machines. I remember
looking through Ira Dueltgen's copy of 'Tinfoil to
Stereo' and being filled with amazement. I could not
wait to own a copy of my own and I remember being
disappointed when I found out that it was out of
print. Sometime during the seventies another edition
was printed and I finally owned my own copy. I now
have an extra copy and if anyone wants to own it, the
price is $20 plus mailing. It is in good condition
but it is not a first edition. Please contact me off
list if interested. Thanks, Jerry Blais
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From steve_nor...@msn.com Sun Nov 18 05:46:17 2007
From: steve_nor...@msn.com (Steven Medved)
Date: Sun Nov 18 05:47:35 2007
Subject: [Phono-L] Tinfoil To Stereo
In-Reply-To: <998840.13323...@web37015.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <998840.13323...@web37015.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <bay102-w19ca2f2867d7510f77a1bef6...@phx.gbl>
Let me know if your received my request.
Steve
> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 19:36:20 -0800> From: deedeebl...@yahoo.com> To:
> phono-l@oldcrank.org> Subject: [Phono-L] Tinfoil To Stereo> > When I started
> collecting some 30+ years ago there> were very few books on talking machines.
> I remember> looking through Ira Dueltgen's copy of 'Tinfoil to> Stereo' and
> being filled with amazement. I could not> wait to own a copy of my own and I
> remember being> disappointed when I found out that it was out of> print.
> Sometime during the seventies another edition> was printed and I finally
> owned my own copy. I now> have an extra copy and if anyone wants to own it,
> the> price is $20 plus mailing. It is in good condition> but it is not a
> first edition. Please contact me off> list if interested. Thanks, Jerry
> Blais> > >
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From gpaul2...@aol.com Sun Nov 18 07:46:01 2007
From: gpaul2...@aol.com (gpaul2...@aol.com)
Date: Sun Nov 18 07:46:29 2007
Subject: [Phono-L] Tinfoil To Stereo
In-Reply-To: <998840.13323...@web37015.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <998840.13323...@web37015.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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Jerry & List,
My experience was similar to yours. I first read a borrowed copy of "Tinfoil to
Stereo" in the summer of 1973, and thought that here, finally, was the greatest
book ever written on the history of the phonograph - - more information than I
could digest! By 1976, I was the proud owner of a first edition plus the
brand-new second edition. I devoured each page. Great stuff. But within a year
or so, I began re-reading it more critically.? I knew from other sources that
the Victrola "IV" was NOT the first enclosed horn Victor machine (p.180, fig.
13-1), that the Edison "Opera" used a Diamond "A" Reproducer - NOT a "K" (Plate
VI), and that Bell & Tainter cylinders were 6 inches long, NOT eight (p.108). I
began making a list of errors I encountered? in "Tinfoil to Stereo," and it
quickly grew to nearly 100 listings - and this was based on my own limited
knowledge! Twenty years later it was the continued reliance upon "Tinfoil to
Stereo" by collectors that encouraged Tim Fabrizio and
me to write our series of books on early phonograph history. We wanted to set
the historical straight - and without the slavish bias toward Thomas Edison as
seen in "Tinfoil to Stereo." That said, I do regard "Tinfoil" as a landmark
book in the collecting history of our hobby, and I'm even fond of it in some
ways. It was all we had for many years, and I'm grateful to Read & Welch for
having written it. But I certainly hope that none among us are consulting
"Tinfoil" for factual information anymore! It's a book to be leafed through on
rainy afternoons to appreciate how far we've come since 1959. And in that
light, well worth twenty bucks.
Happy Thanksgiving, everyone!
George Paul
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From taediso...@aol.com Sun Nov 18 08:28:52 2007
From: taediso...@aol.com (taediso...@aol.com)
Date: Sun Nov 18 08:29:06 2007
Subject: [Phono-L] Tinfoil To Stereo
Message-ID: <bd5.1dcc508c.3471c...@aol.com>
Ah, "From Tinfoil to Stereo"! What memories that brings back. My parents
gave me a copy for Christmas 1962. I still have that book, well-worn, as well
as
a photo my mother took as I unwrapped it. I guess I was a pretty strange 13
year-old because that was a very exciting gift, though a tad less than the
Edison Standard and morning glory horn I also got that year.
I can't even count how many times I read the book. As George Paul pointed
out, it was full of errors (though it took me a while to realize it) and had an
almost painfully pro-Edison slant. That in itself wasn't so bad, what was
hard to take was the portrayal of anything and anyone related to Columbia as
being the very personification of evil. Even to a young teenager that bias was
a
bit too blatant to be believable, and it became tiresome.
But the pictures were the heart of the book for all collectors in the 1960s.
Whenever a machine was bought or sold, a reference to "Tinfoil to Stereo"
would be made to help identify it.
I still look back at my first edition from time to time, but when I do it's
always with a mix of nostalgia and relief. I'm so glad we have such a vast
wealth of accurate and well-illustrated books to refer to now. Especially, of
course, the inimitable series by Tim and George.
Best regards,
Rene Rondeau
************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
From deedeebl...@yahoo.com Sun Nov 18 08:47:28 2007
From: deedeebl...@yahoo.com (DeeDee Blais)
Date: Sun Nov 18 08:47:39 2007
Subject: [Phono-L] What is the best way to be fair?
Message-ID: <649217.55950...@web37012.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Yesterday I posted a book on phono-l. The first email
said "I'm interested" and the second one said "I'll
take it". This is not the first time that I've faced
this dilemma. Often, people will ask for a photo.
Should I send a photo and wait for a reply before
going to the second potential buyer? I my many years
of buying and selling, I have always offered a money
back offer if the item is not what the buyer expected.
I have never had anything returned. I always try to
accurately describe anything that I'm selling. What
does the rest of the group think?
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From deedeebl...@yahoo.com Sun Nov 18 09:12:10 2007
From: deedeebl...@yahoo.com (DeeDee Blais)
Date: Sun Nov 18 09:19:05 2007
Subject: [Phono-L] Also for sale!
Message-ID: <599325.10918...@web37009.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
"Look for the Dog", autographed by the author Robert
Baumbach, first edition, hardback copy. $15.
Victor Records- 1922 record catalog. $20.
New Victor Records May 1922. $10.
How to get the most out of your Victrola. $15.
The New Phonogram. Vol. VI. November, 1909 No 5, $10.
The New Phonogram, May, 1912 (POOR CONDITION) $5.
Instructions for the Victrola (100) XI. (the XI is
lined through and "100" printed underneath. $20.
OKeh record flier, with William Finzel pictured on the
cover. $10.
Deutsche Victor Platten-Victor German Records, $10.
Thomas Edison-Benefactor of Mankind- copyright 1932,
John Hancock Ins. Co. $20.
National Phonograph Co. postcard of the old couple
listening to the phonograph $10.
Victor Repair Manual- REPRODUCTION- APM facsimile No.
23 published 1975. $10.
If you have any questions, please give me a call at
541-926-2843 (Pacific time). I enjoy talking to other
collectors so call. I will sell the first person that
says "sold" or "I'll take it". Thanks for your
interest. Jerry Blais
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From appywan...@hotmail.com Sun Nov 18 09:39:25 2007
From: appywan...@hotmail.com (John Maeder)
Date: Sun Nov 18 09:40:27 2007
Subject: [Phono-L] Tinfoil To Stereo
In-Reply-To: <bd5.1dcc508c.3471c...@aol.com>
References: <bd5.1dcc508c.3471c...@aol.com>
Message-ID: <blu112-w231ebd75f45b77ebd50a1adc...@phx.gbl>
When I was cutting my teeth in the hobby (circa 1967), the copy of FTFTS at the
Louisville library, as well as the copy at the Ft. Knox library, had been
stolen. Ft. Knox did have a copy of The Fabulous Phonograph which I checked
out repeatedly (I was the only one who had ever checked it out and it had been
in circulation since the 1950's). Eventually, I purchased it at a library book
sale courtesy of a friendly lbrarian who knew I was the only one who ever
checked it out. Anyway, the only copy of FTFTS I had access to, belonged to a
crusty old antiques dealer downtown on Market Street named Henry Sexton. His
window was painted "H. Sexton Antiques/Clocks/Watches/Phonographs/Music Boxes"
and he had been there forever. He would allow me to stand there and look
through his first-edition copy for hours. Henry never let me buy anything from
him. He would have something I liked and when I would ask him how much, he
would tell me it was not for sale. The next time I'd visit the shop, it would
be gone. I never pried a single solitary thing from him! Once I screwed up
the courage to make him a cash offer for a Columbia BC. He never said a word,
just opened the top left drawer of his roll-top desk, removed a cloth bag, and
dumped several gold coins out onto the desk, scooped them back into the bag,
replaced it and closed the drawer. I had a friend in town with a vast
collection of music boxes and band organs who had known Henry for years. I
asked him to try to buy the BC from him for me, and even he was unsuccessful.
Eventually, according to Henry, "a man from Chicago" came down and got it.
Apparently, you had to be from out of town to impress old Henry. Later, I
found out that the "man from Chicago" was actually a phono dealer friend of
mine from New York (name withheld to protect the guilty) who decided to come
down and try to buy it after I told him my predicament, and then unilaterally
decided it would be in both of our best interests if I didn't know what went
down. No hard feelings to Henry or my old friend (great seeing you at Union
this year!). After all, ultimately it's just merch, and intrigue is what makes
the world go around. Sorry for the palaver here, but FTFTS triggered all
those memories. Henry is long gone and his old cast-iron front building is
replaced with a modern structure.
I have a first edition of FTFTS that originally belonged to Elmer Moore, whose
name should be familiar to old-school Southern California collectors. Elmer
incribed it with his name, and when he got old, gave it to Ken Blazier, who
inscribed it with his name. When Ken sold his collection, I was honored that
he gave it to me. John M
> From: taediso...@aol.com
> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 11:28:52 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Tinfoil To Stereo
> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
>
> Ah, "From Tinfoil to Stereo"! What memories that brings back. My parents
> gave me a copy for Christmas 1962. I still have that book, well-worn, as well
> as
> a photo my mother took as I unwrapped it. I guess I was a pretty strange 13
> year-old because that was a very exciting gift, though a tad less than the
> Edison Standard and morning glory horn I also got that year.
>
> I can't even count how many times I read the book. As George Paul pointed
> out, it was full of errors (though it took me a while to realize it) and had
> an
> almost painfully pro-Edison slant. That in itself wasn't so bad, what was
> hard to take was the portrayal of anything and anyone related to Columbia as
> being the very personification of evil. Even to a young teenager that bias
> was a
> bit too blatant to be believable, and it became tiresome.
>
> But the pictures were the heart of the book for all collectors in the 1960s.
> Whenever a machine was bought or sold, a reference to "Tinfoil to Stereo"
> would be made to help identify it.
>
> I still look back at my first edition from time to time, but when I do it's
> always with a mix of nostalgia and relief. I'm so glad we have such a vast
> wealth of accurate and well-illustrated books to refer to now. Especially, of
>
> course, the inimitable series by Tim and George.
>
> Best regards,
> Rene Rondeau
>
>
>
> ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
> _______________________________________________
> Phono-L mailing list
> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
From appywan...@hotmail.com Sun Nov 18 09:39:51 2007
From: appywan...@hotmail.com (John Maeder)
Date: Sun Nov 18 09:45:07 2007
Subject: [Phono-L] Tinfoil To Stereo
In-Reply-To: <bd5.1dcc508c.3471c...@aol.com>
References: <bd5.1dcc508c.3471c...@aol.com>
Message-ID: <blu112-w10c712ad541c4d3ee9cd2bdc...@phx.gbl>
When I was cutting my teeth in the hobby (circa 1967), the copy of FTFTS at the
Louisville library, as well as the copy at the Ft. Knox library, had been
stolen. Ft. Knox did have a copy of The Fabulous Phonograph which I checked
out repeatedly (I was the only one who had ever checked it out and it had been
in circulation since the 1950's). Eventually, I purchased it at a library book
sale courtesy of a friendly lbrarian who knew I was the only one who ever
checked it out. Anyway, the only copy of FTFTS I had access to, belonged to a
crusty old antiques dealer downtown on Market Street named Henry Sexton. His
window was painted "H. Sexton Antiques/Clocks/Watches/Phonographs/Music Boxes"
and he had been there forever. He would allow me to stand there and look
through his first-edition copy for hours. Henry never let me buy anything from
him. He would have something I liked and when I would ask him how much, he
would tell me it was not for sale. The next time I'd visit the shop, it would
be gone. I never pried a single solitary thing from him! Once I screwed up
the courage to make him a cash offer for a Columbia BC. He never said a word,
just opened the top left drawer of his roll-top desk, removed a cloth bag, and
dumped several gold coins out onto the desk, scooped them back into the bag,
replaced it and closed the drawer. I had a friend in town with a vast
collection of music boxes and band organs who had known Henry for years. I
asked him to try to buy the BC from him for me, and even he was unsuccessful.
Eventually, according to Henry, "a man from Chicago" came down and got it.
Apparently, you had to be from out of town to impress old Henry. Later, I
found out that the "man from Chicago" was actually a phono dealer friend of
mine from New York (name withheld to protect the guilty) who decided to come
down and try to buy it after I told him my predicament, and then unilaterally
decided it would be in both of our best interests if I didn't know what went
down. No hard feelings to Henry or my old friend (great seeing you at Union
this year!). After all, ultimately it's just merch, and intrigue is what makes
the world go around. Sorry for the palaver here, but FTFTS triggered all
those memories. Henry is long gone and his old cast-iron front building is
replaced with a modern structure.
I have a first edition of FTFTS that originally belonged to Elmer Moore, whose
name should be familiar to old-school Southern California collectors. Elmer
incribed it with his name, and when he got old, gave it to Ken Blazier, who
inscribed it with his name. When Ken sold his collection, I was honored that
he gave it to me. John M
> From: taediso...@aol.com
> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 11:28:52 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Tinfoil To Stereo
> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
>
> Ah, "From Tinfoil to Stereo"! What memories that brings back. My parents
> gave me a copy for Christmas 1962. I still have that book, well-worn, as well
> as
> a photo my mother took as I unwrapped it. I guess I was a pretty strange 13
> year-old because that was a very exciting gift, though a tad less than the
> Edison Standard and morning glory horn I also got that year.
>
> I can't even count how many times I read the book. As George Paul pointed
> out, it was full of errors (though it took me a while to realize it) and had
> an
> almost painfully pro-Edison slant. That in itself wasn't so bad, what was
> hard to take was the portrayal of anything and anyone related to Columbia as
> being the very personification of evil. Even to a young teenager that bias
> was a
> bit too blatant to be believable, and it became tiresome.
>
> But the pictures were the heart of the book for all collectors in the 1960s.
> Whenever a machine was bought or sold, a reference to "Tinfoil to Stereo"
> would be made to help identify it.
>
> I still look back at my first edition from time to time, but when I do it's
> always with a mix of nostalgia and relief. I'm so glad we have such a vast
> wealth of accurate and well-illustrated books to refer to now. Especially, of
>
> course, the inimitable series by Tim and George.
>
> Best regards,
> Rene Rondeau
>
>
>
> ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
> _______________________________________________
> Phono-L mailing list
> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
From appywan...@hotmail.com Sun Nov 18 09:41:47 2007
From: appywan...@hotmail.com (John Maeder)
Date: Sun Nov 18 09:57:40 2007
Subject: [Phono-L] Tinfoil To Stereo
In-Reply-To: <bd5.1dcc508c.3471c...@aol.com>
References: <bd5.1dcc508c.3471c...@aol.com>
Message-ID: <blu112-w58d85d49e8c4ff60af4dfadc...@phx.gbl>
When I was cutting my teeth in the hobby (circa 1967), the copy of FTFTS at the
Louisville library, as well as the copy at the Ft. Knox library, had been
stolen. Ft. Knox did have a copy of The Fabulous Phonograph which I checked
out repeatedly (I was the only one who had ever checked it out and it had been
in circulation since the 1950's). Eventually, I purchased it at a library book
sale courtesy of a friendly lbrarian who knew I was the only one who ever
checked it out. Anyway, the only copy of FTFTS I had access to, belonged to a
crusty old antiques dealer downtown on Market Street named Henry Sexton. His
window was painted "H. Sexton Antiques/Clocks/Watches/Phonographs/Music Boxes"
and he had been there forever. He would allow me to stand there and look
through his first-edition copy for hours. Henry never let me buy anything from
him. He would have something I liked and when I would ask him how much, he
would tell me it was not for sale. The next time I'd visit the shop, it would
be gone. I never pried a single solitary thing from him! Once I screwed up
the courage to make him a cash offer for a Columbia BC. He never said a word,
just opened the top left drawer of his roll-top desk, removed a cloth bag, and
dumped several gold coins out onto the desk, scooped them back into the bag,
replaced it and closed the drawer. I had a friend in town with a vast
collection of music boxes and band organs who had known Henry for years. I
asked him to try to buy the BC from him for me, and even he was unsuccessful.
Eventually, according to Henry, "a man from Chicago" came down and got it.
Apparently, you had to be from out of town to impress old Henry. Later, I
found out that the "man from Chicago" was actually a phono dealer friend of
mine from New York (name withheld to protect the guilty) who decided to come
down and try to buy it after I told him my predicament, and then unilaterally
decided it would be in both of our best interests if I didn't know what went
down. No hard feelings to Henry or my old friend (great seeing you at Union
this year!). After all, ultimately it's just merch, people are what really
matter, and intrigue is what makes the world go around. Sorry for the palaver
here, but FTFTS triggered all those memories. Henry is long gone and his old
cast-iron front building is replaced with a modern structure.
I have a first edition of FTFTS that originally belonged to Elmer Moore, whose
name should be familiar to old-school Southern California collectors. Elmer
inscribed it with his name, and when he got old, gave it to Ken Blazier, who
inscribed it with his name. When Ken sold his collection, I was honored that
he gave it to me. John M
> From: taediso...@aol.com
> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 11:28:52 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Tinfoil To Stereo
> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
>
> Ah, "From Tinfoil to Stereo"! What memories that brings back. My parents
> gave me a copy for Christmas 1962. I still have that book, well-worn, as well
> as
> a photo my mother took as I unwrapped it. I guess I was a pretty strange 13
> year-old because that was a very exciting gift, though a tad less than the
> Edison Standard and morning glory horn I also got that year.
>
> I can't even count how many times I read the book. As George Paul pointed
> out, it was full of errors (though it took me a while to realize it) and had
> an
> almost painfully pro-Edison slant. That in itself wasn't so bad, what was
> hard to take was the portrayal of anything and anyone related to Columbia as
> being the very personification of evil. Even to a young teenager that bias
> was a
> bit too blatant to be believable, and it became tiresome.
>
> But the pictures were the heart of the book for all collectors in the 1960s.
> Whenever a machine was bought or sold, a reference to "Tinfoil to Stereo"
> would be made to help identify it.
>
> I still look back at my first edition from time to time, but when I do it's
> always with a mix of nostalgia and relief. I'm so glad we have such a vast
> wealth of accurate and well-illustrated books to refer to now. Especially, of
>
> course, the inimitable series by Tim and George.
>
> Best regards,
> Rene Rondeau
>
>
>
> ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
> _______________________________________________
> Phono-L mailing list
> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
From gpaul2...@aol.com Sun Nov 18 10:05:27 2007
From: gpaul2...@aol.com (gpaul2...@aol.com)
Date: Sun Nov 18 10:05:56 2007
Subject: [Phono-L] What is the best way to be fair?
In-Reply-To: <649217.55950...@web37012.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <649217.55950...@web37012.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8c9f824bb99574a-504-4...@mblk-d14.sysops.aol.com>
Jerry,
Anyone who knows you would be confident in buying from you, but those who don't
might legitimately have a question or two to ask before reaching for their
wallet. And therein lies the risk - we've all lamented the pause that cost us
an acquisition. Everything else being equal, "money talks, all else walks."
I was at Union in 1980, when a guy wheeled in an Edison "Climax" (floor model
5" cylinder coin-op). A knot of collectors descended like bees on honey. A
friend of mine called over to the seller, "How much do you want for it?"? The
seller responded, "Thirty-eight hundred." My friend paused a moment, and in
that 2-3 second time frame, another guy called out, "SOLD!" and? walked over to
the seller with his wallet in hand. My friend - looking dazed - asked, "Is it
sold?" The seller -equally dazed - replied, "I guess so..." It was my first
trip to Union, and I took that quick exchange as a lesson. Of course, we
observe an unspoken law for smaller, hand-held objects: "If I'm holding it, I
have first shot at it." Several times, I've watched (and so have we all) a
collector examining something in his hands, and we're just waiting for him to
put it down so we can pounce. Machines are usually a bit trickier. If someone
is talking to the seller about a machine, most of us understand tha
t he has first shot, and we wait our turn. Sometime this gets tense when more
than one observer is "in line." But we try to be gentlemen, and most of us are.
On a list such as this, it's all the more important to let the seller know in
no uncertain terms that "I'll take it." It shouldn't be the seller's
responsibility to decide who really wants it.? We're all grownups here, and
decisive action is sometimes called for, even if it's phrased, "I'll take it on
approval - OK?" I'm sure we all appreciate the opportunity to buy items on this
list for set prices without going through eBay. In return, we should be
prepared to act quickly and clearly on those items we want. If we request a
photo and someone else meantime says, "I'll take it," I would suggest that the
seller let the first responder know that a second responder will take it if he
doesn't want it. This would be especially true when buying machines, and photos
are called for. And there's an important distinction: are we talking about a
$20 book, or a $2500 phonograph? Both the buyer and seller need to adjust
accordingly.? Just my opinion...
Best reagrds to all,
George Paul
________________________________________________________________________
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From lo...@oldcrank.com Sun Nov 18 11:43:29 2007
From: lo...@oldcrank.com (Loran T. Hughes)
Date: Sun Nov 18 11:43:38 2007
Subject: [Phono-L] What is the best way to be fair?
In-Reply-To: <8c9f824bb99574a-504-4...@mblk-d14.sysops.aol.com>
References: <649217.55950...@web37012.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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On Nov 18, 2007, at 10:05 AM, gpaul2...@aol.com wrote:
> On a list such as this, it's all the more important to let the
> seller know in no uncertain terms that "I'll take it." It shouldn't
> be the seller's responsibility to decide who really wants it.? We're
> all grownups here, and decisive action is sometimes called for, even
> if it's phrased, "I'll take it on approval - OK?" I'm sure we all
> appreciate the opportunity to buy items on this list for set prices
> without going through eBay. In return, we should be prepared to act
> quickly and clearly on those items we want. If we request a photo
> and someone else meantime says, "I'll take it," I would suggest that
> the seller let the first responder know that a second responder will
> take it if he doesn't want it. This would be especially true when
> buying machines, and photos are called for. And there's an important
> distinction: are we talking about a $20 book, or a $2500 phonograph?
> Both the buyer and seller need to adjust accordingly.? Just my
> opinion...
Spot on! I couldn't have said it better.
Regards,
Loran
From jeff...@prevea.com Sun Nov 18 12:08:08 2007
From: jeff...@prevea.com (Jeffry Young, D.O.)
Date: Sun Nov 18 12:08:18 2007
Subject: [Phono-L] Special Columbia Record Duster
Message-ID: <6c7ea97ca5292848b80f204f38a7375204880...@mercury.prevea.com>
I was at an antique show yesterday in Green Bay. It is an annual show. I
usually ask dealers if they have anything phonograph related. This was
one of those times I wish I had a cell phone with a camera in it! A
dealer showed me a Columbia record duster. The material of the duster
was cobalt blue in color. The bottom of the duster was a traditional
round shape. The top of the duster was a hexagonal hammered pewter like
metal. In the center of this was a small hexagonal "handle" attached
right in the middle that could be swiveled. It had the classic Columbia
notes on it. The hammered pewter like metal plate had "Columbia" on it
and phrases like "new recording process." Everything on the top of the
duster was in raised relief. I have never seen a duster like this. I
have to assume that it might have been a dealer premium that would have
been given to dealers at a convention, much like the premiums given to
"jobbers" at the Edison dealer conventions. Anyone that that thinks they
may know what this is can contact me off line, or if you have a picture
of what you think I saw, please send it to me! jeff...@prevea.com The
dealer wanted $295 for it, which seems outrageous, even if it was a
dealer premium. I was told I could have it for $195. That means he
probably has a Ben Franklin invested in it.
Jeff
Wisconsin
From john9...@pacbell.net Sun Nov 18 12:21:50 2007
From: john9...@pacbell.net (john robles)
Date: Sun Nov 18 12:22:14 2007
Subject: [Phono-L] What is the best way to be fair?
In-Reply-To: <f1e3e67f-90e1-4cc4-9613-ef4aebe9f...@oldcrank.com>
Message-ID: <120983.79826...@web83015.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
I have, many many times, found that people who say "I'm interested" are people
who DON'T buy...
"Loran T. Hughes" <lo...@oldcrank.com> wrote: On Nov 18, 2007, at 10:05 AM,
gpaul2...@aol.com wrote:
> On a list such as this, it's all the more important to let the
> seller know in no uncertain terms that "I'll take it." It shouldn't
> be the seller's responsibility to decide who really wants it.? We're
> all grownups here, and decisive action is sometimes called for, even
> if it's phrased, "I'll take it on approval - OK?" I'm sure we all
> appreciate the opportunity to buy items on this list for set prices
> without going through eBay. In return, we should be prepared to act
> quickly and clearly on those items we want. If we request a photo
> and someone else meantime says, "I'll take it," I would suggest that
> the seller let the first responder know that a second responder will
> take it if he doesn't want it. This would be especially true when
> buying machines, and photos are called for. And there's an important
> distinction: are we talking about a $20 book, or a $2500 phonograph?
> Both the buyer and seller need to adjust accordingly.? Just my
> opinion...
Spot on! I couldn't have said it better.
Regards,
Loran
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