I re-looked at my standard with the changed ID tag. It now appears that the letter which looked like an "E"on further inspection is actually an "F". The machine has a small top-mount reproducer ring. This fits with the 2/4 gearing and cygnet horn. One wonders if original buyers were ever sophisticated enough to recognize the differences between models with all the factory changes. However, I would assume they would have known what they wanted given the options of 2 and 4 minute reproduction. Art Heller In a message dated 4/13/2017 10:09:50 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, phono-l@oldcrank.org writes:
The picture that Randy posted looks identical to the Model F pictured in the Frow book. It says the E had a side mount carriage arm with large opening for a Model N reproducer, whereas the F had top mount carriage arm with a small opening for C, H, R, or S reproducers. It says the Model E had a straight paneled horn with a front mount crane, whereas the Model F had a cygnet horn with a back mount crane bracket. Also, the Standard Models D, E, and F all had both 2 and 4 minute gearing. HOWEVER, on the Model E, the mechanism was blocked to keep it in 4-minute mode all the time. If Randy found it was stuck in 4-minute mode, this would support the E nameplate. Otherwise, everything else points to a Model F. Of course, you never know what really happened at the Edison factory. Jim Nichol On Apr 13, 2017, at 9:29 PM, harvey kravitz via Phono-L <phono-l@oldcrank.org> wrote: It's probably a Model D Standard. These were 2.4 min. The model E was strictly a 4 min. machine. 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