Are you daft?

Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East. Israelis have the right 
to dissent, to free assembly and speech which makes Israel both unique 
among nations, but also exceptional in the Middle East. All Israelis, 
Arabs, Jews, Christians, and everyone else - all of its citizens have 
civil and political rights. Israel has regular and free elections. Israel 
has an independent judiciary. Israel has impressive and extraordinary 
freedom of speech and association and rights to criticize the government 
and everything else and Jews generally do.

Ask yourself how many other states anywhere offer their  citizens the same 
rights and the answer is none. Israel is unique among states.

Either you are brainwashed, or you are trolling. What is it?

Hank Roth

On Sat, 7 Jul 2007, Amy Hendrickson wrote:

> It seems to me the best way to increase antisemitism and the
> chance of violence against Jews is to continue the oppression
> of the Palestinians.
>
> Do you think that Israel protects Jews? I see no evidence of that.
>
> Ask Azmi Bishara how democratic Israel is-- Is a Jewish State
> a democracy for its Palestinian or Druse or other-than-Jewish
> citizens? How can it be? It is a contradiction in terms.
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: adar
>  To: PNEWS-L@yahoogroups.com
>  Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 10:12 PM
>  Subject: Re: [PNEWS-L] Re: Palestinians
>
>
>
>
>  Is not having a "Jewish State" worth another 6 million exterminated Jews?
>
>  There would be no dead
>  Arabs if the Arabs did not attack Israelis.
>
>  Israel takes care of Muslims better than Islamic states take care of them.
>  And it is the only real democracy in the Middle-East. A citizen of Israel
>  can vote and become Prime Minister, whether he is a Druze, a Jew or a
>  Muslim.
>
>  Hank
>
>  On Sat, 7 Jul 2007, Amy Hendrickson wrote:
>
>  > Hank-- look at it this way-- Is having a "Jewish State" worth killing one
>  > Palestinian child?
>  >
>  > Personally I wouldn't think so.
>  >
>  > So, give up the notion of a "Jewish State" and instead have a state with
>  > equal rights for all its citizens, and there is no longer any need to kill
>  > children, or their parents. Wouldn't that be better for everyone?
>  >
>  > Sincerely,
>  > Amy
>  >
>  > ----- Original Message -----
>  > From: adar
>  > To: PNEWS-L@yahoogroups.com
>  > Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 11:45 AM
>  > Subject: Re: [PNEWS-L] Re: Palestinians
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > Amy:
>  >
>  > It is childish to think that someone born in Israel might have a right to
>  > return to Israel if they are sworn to destroy Israel and kill the Jews.
>  > That would not be allowed in any country in the world. You are either
>  > extremely naive or you are being purposely antagonistic toward the Jews of
>  > Israel and against peace. I think you are anti-peace. It seems obvious
>  > from your comments.
>  >
>  > How could preventing terrorism be indefensible? The logic is it is
>  > perfectly reasonable and you must know that.
>  >
>  > Neither can Israel consider land for peace because it does not work. The
>  > proof is Gaza. A unilateral withdrawal from Gaza created a Hamastan which
>  > will never accept israel. The same thing would happen on the West Bank.
>  > Israel must declare the West Bank part of Israel and those who will not
>  > accept Israeli sovereignty should be considered alien residents without
>  > any special rights. Why pay for school and health care which is provided
>  > to Israeli citizens if someone wants to harm the state and it's
>  > inhabitants. Those who want to leave should be encouraged to do so.
>  >
>  > Where is it you live? They can move there.
>  >
>  > Hank
>  >
>  > On Fri, 6 Jul 2007, Amy Hendrickson wrote:
>  >
>  > > is it childish to think that we are all equals? is it childish
>  > > to think that people born in historic Palestine have a right
>  > > to return there?
>  > >
>  > > when people are trying to justify a situation but know that
>  > > their opinion is logically indefensible they use terms like
>  > > "childish"
>  > >
>  > > Are you saying that Palestinians are "foreign" in Israel?
>  > > I don't think that is logically defensible.
>  > >
>  > > ----- Original Message -----
>  > > From: physisvnomos
>  > > To: PNEWS-L@yahoogroups.com
>  > > Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 6:35 PM
>  > > Subject: [PNEWS-L] Re: Palestinians
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > --- In PNEWS-L@yahoogroups.com, "Amy Hendrickson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
>  > > >
>  > > > Hank-- Do you agree with the concept of equal rights for all people
>  > > living
>  > > > in historic Palestine?
>  > > >
>  > > > If not, how can you justify your belief system?
>  > > >
>  > >
>  > > This appeal to "equal rights" comes from an almost childish
>  > > understanding of right or rights. Some rights obtain with respect to
>  > > an individual depending on his or her citizenship. A person visiting a
>  > > foreign state does not have the same rights as a citizen.
>  > >
>  > > Timothy E. Kennelly
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
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