This is very revealing. This is so revealing. Everyone take notice. Religious Judaism is clearly as much a threat as Islamism. Martin's words speak voluminously about what they intend. It is no wonder there is a post-Zionist academic rebuttal which you have heard referred to as the "New Historians," though I prefer to call many of them honest and seekers of justice. Bob Martin says Zionism has never been about world domination. In the very next sentence(s) he says:
"Dominating a small part of the world, yes. Scoff and mock all you want, we'll eventually have a commonwealth that stretches from the Nile to the Euphrates, including the Eastern part of Africa down to Ethiopia, and the entire land presently occupied by Islam. Most of that land was historically Jewish from long before the advent of Islamic imperialism." They have _secret_ books, (he says) not published anywhere else, he says. They are banned elsewhere. I don't know about these books he speaks of, but I have heard the radical right wing in Israel of which he is very much part of and there will never be peace nor reconciliation as long as they are a force to be reckoned with in Israel. The only hope for justice is for all of us who consider ourselves progressives to support the progressive left wing in Israel Note, what he says about Peres and Rabin" "Is this what you learned from Rabin and Peres? Have you, like them, secretly reverted to Islam (at least to the Islamic political agenda)?" Both of these men were from the left, the Labor Party, and both advocated for peace - and that makes them traitors to the right wing religious wingnuts in Israel. He obviously also supports the assassination of Rabin, as most of the right does and will not bring themselves to condemn this despicable hate crime. Jews against Jews. Just like during the time of the Maccabeans. Yes, this is definitely deja vu all over again. Thank you Bob for your honesty. You removed any doubt anyone could have about the right wing Israelis who unfortunately have too much influence but with the help of the left and an honest rebuttal and awareness you will be stopped and Israel will become a secular state with a constitution which guarantees human and civil rights for everyone, not just you Maccabean Jews. Hank ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 09:49:09 +0300 From: Bob Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PNEWS-L] PLEASE counter these lies Hank So that you understand the context of my comments, you should know that I made Aliyah in April of 2004. I suspect this doesn't mean much to you, being that you appear to have become something of a shill for the anti-Zionist pro-Islam crowd. But Aliyah still means something very important to me and to a few million other people. I'm at least as well read on the subject of Zionism as an average Israeli. Actually, maybe a little better read than an Israeli since I grew up in America and had access to ideas and books that were banned here and are still difficult to find. *Unlike Xianity and Islamianity, Zionism has never been about world domination.* Dominating a small part of the world, yes. Scoff and mock all you want, we'll eventually have a commonwealth that stretches from the Nile to the Euphrates, including the Eastern part of Africa down to Ethiopia, and the entire land presently occupied by Islam. Most of that land was historically Jewish from long before the advent of Islamic imperialism. *Zionism is the opposite of Islamic imperialism.* With Zionism has come a literal renewal of the land, and the emergence of a strong and vibrant economy. If Islam were capable of this, it would have done so long long ago. Islam is not capable of building such a culture. I wonder... how is it that you've come to this point where you're eager to use your knowledge and skills to undermine everything our ancestors worked for since at least 138 c.e.? It seems that you're not just content to undermine... you clearly delight in crushing all sense of hope and purpose in those of us who've not forgotten our history. Is this what you learned from Rabin and Peres? Have you, like them, secretly reverted to Islam (at least to the Islamic political agenda)? Bob
