Re: [political-research] On the Israel Lobby and Christian Armageddonists

[bernard pyron]

Sean:     By "Christian Armageddonists" do you mean dispensationalists?  If so, you could have said so. "Christian Armageddonists" as a vague term could refer to anyone who believes in some kind of a literal battle - physical or spiritual or both - as mentioned in Revelation 16: 16.      Dispensationalists tend to believe in a literal battle at the end of the world or end of the age as described in Revelation 16: 13-16 and Revelation 19: 11-21 that is to occur at a place called Armageddon.  But the dispensationalists generally think that the Hebrews or Jews are still God's chosen people, though most Jews rejected Christ   with only a few accepting him.  The dispensationalists reject the New Testament teachings that those who are in Christ are true Israel. The pre-Tribulation Rapture apostasy is dispensationalist, and maybe what you are calling "Christian Armageddonists" are
 those who believe in that pre-trib Rapture. But you have not said that and have left it open to include others who are not Rapture people.     There are many Christian groups and individuals who believe in the Millennium, think Christians will go through the Great Tribulation without being Raptured off the earth, and who do not allegorize almost all end time prophecy and who are not dispensationalists.  Francis Schaeffer, the Christian writer who died in 1985, was one who believed in the Millennium and in many literal fulfillments of end time Bible prophecy, and yet he was not a dispensationalist.  You could be more explicit rather than talking about "Christian Armageddonists."  Even if you are not a Chrtistian you could find out more about end time Christian or Protestant   theology.  BernardSean McBride <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:        On the Israel Lobby and Christian Armageddonists     The Israel lobby isn't simply manipulating Christian Armageddonists (and vice-versa).  Major factions within the Israel lobby and the Zionist world, especially religious Zionists in the school of Rabbi Abraham Kook, are themselves Armageddonists, Jewish Armageddonists, to be exact.     Christian Armageddonists view Armageddon as an instrument to produce a permanent global Christian
 dictatorship with its capital in Jerusalem.  Jewish Armageddonists view Armageddon as a means to create a permanent global Jewish dictatorship with its capital in Jerusalem.  Both parties are of course completely deranged and will no doubt at some point begin warring against one another.     Many of the supposed secular neoconservatives are crypto-Armageddonists.  The rhetoric of the PNAC and other neocon organizations is loaded up with themes straight from Armageddonist psychology -- world revolution, world domination, utopianism, global holy war, World War III, World War IV, clash of civilizations, etc.  William Kristol, Richard Perle, Michael Ledeen and their comrades are essentially Jewish Armageddonists, who are attempting to ignite a global conflagration as the necessary prelude to ushering in the messianic era -- an era in which they comprise the world-dominating
 Messiah.     Jewish Armageddonists + Christian Armageddonists = Judeo-Christian Armageddonism, the most dangerous political movement in the history of the United States and of the world.  These crackpots control the largest arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in existence.     The great majority of Christians and Jews oppose both Christian and Jewish Armageddonists, but for some reason their voices are not being heard in the contemporary American mainstream media.  The most influential owners and controllers of the mainstream media, like Rupert Murdoch, appear to be Armageddonists themselves, who are promoting an Armageddonist agenda while censoring all dissenting voices.           "No man in the wrong can stand up against a fellow that's in the right  and keeps a-comin.' "  Texas Ranger  Captain
 Bill McDonald     James 5:1-6"Go to now, ye rich men, weep and howl for your miseries that shall come upon you. Your riches are corrupted, and your garments are motheaten. Your gold and silver is cankered; and the rust of them shall be a witness against you, and shall eat your flesh as it were fire. Ye have heaped treasure together for the last days. Behold, the hire of the labourers who have reaped down your fields, which is of you kept back by fraud (INCOME TAX), crieth: and the cries of them which have reaped are entered into the ears of the Lord of sabaoth." 
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