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FLOOD OF OUTRAGE CAUSES EBAY TO ALTER POLICY, STOPPING SALES OF THE EUCHARIST We have trouble keeping up with it. First there will be the report of another Host for sale on eBay, and nearly as quickly -- especially if it is posted -- the Host will be removed by either the person selling it or by eBay (which, thanks to all of you, is coming under intense pressure). After the initial report that a Host consecrated by John Paul II was for sale on eBay, and with other websites subsequently posting articles, the online auctioneer received what it at first characterized as "a few complaints" and then at least 9,000 (by their reckoning). Since that time there have been instances of saintly relics for sale on eBay, other Hosts (we're really not sure how many), a ciborium, blessed oil, and now even an automobile that was once owned by Benedict XVI. Let them sell the car, but the Eucharist -- an essence of the Catholic faith -- is another matter, and the response has been explosive. In fact, as you will see below, the most recent e-mails from eBay state that it has changed its policy and will now prohibit the sale of "sacred" objects. We'll see. It started around 8:40 p.m. on April 11 when in the evening update we were alerted by a viewer of the item on eBay and placed a link directly to it ("Horror," said the headline, "Eucharist allegedly 'given' by Pope is now on sale on eBay"). Nearly immediately, a man from Cupertino, California, saw the link and bought the Host for $2,000 to keep it out of the wrong hands. In the end, he had to pay nothing; so tremendous was the outpouring of outrage that the seller decided to simply hand it over to the bishop of Sioux City, Iowa, without charging a dime. It was disposed of in accordance with Church strictures. That had been eBay number 6169851381. But soon another Host came to public notice. "EBay auction #6169759077 began April 9, 2005, as an auction for a Pope John Paul II Communion Wafer, plus a bottle of blessed oil and a Vatican post card," notes the report of another instance. "Complaints to eBay received the standard form letter response stating that 'the Eucharist is not illegal to sell, and is generally allowed on eBay as long as the seller does not otherwise include hateful text or images in the listing.' After a day of receiving as many as 12 outraged emails per minute, the seller removed the Host from the auction, leaving the auction running for the oil and the post card." That Host was nearly purchased by a woman who was reportedly listed in chat rooms as having an interest in paganism and witchcraft. The identity of the seller, apparently a resident of Bakersfield, California, was obtained and the Diocese of Fresno and St. Francis Catholic Church in Bakersfield were notified. The non-Catholic seller had gone to Rome in October of 1999 as a tourist -- or so we are told (it is hard to confirm such details). She contacted the Vatican prior to the trip stating it was the couples 25th anniversary and they wanted to meet the Pope. The couple reportedly split one Host and shared it and kept the second as a souvenir. The seller was asked several times in e-mails to turn the Host over to the Church. This was now eBay number 6171703649 -- if we can keep up with it. "A woman, who wishes to be known only as a Charlotte, North Carolina, grandmother of three, was searching for an addition to a small Rosary collection when she spotted the auction," notes the report. "Only four persons had viewed the auction at that point. She did the research and attempted to contact the Church in California. When there was no response she prayed to the Blessed Mother to assist her in rescuing the Host. Arrangements were made to place a high bid on the auction still running to guarantee the auction would not sell to the bidder with ties to witchcraft. Winning the auction might have given the cult member an advantage in securing the Host. A dialogue was established with the seller which lasted several days. Since the seller referred to the people emailing her as 'screamers,' a calm, dispassionate tone was required for negotiations. After the auction ended on April 16, 2005, the seller finally agreed to a transaction off eBay." Arrangements were made for the Host to be received by Father James Geiger and Father Edward Grey of St. James the Greater Catholic Church in Concord, North Carolina, where, once more, the Host was handled in accordance with laws of the Church. Other Hosts were offered. In at least one case, eBay scrambled to remove it. In another case, a man from England wrote us to say that he was bidding $20 million to try to stop the auction of a Host (even though, of course, he had no access to $20 million). Well... desperate situations cause desperate reactions. The Washington Times said the actual bid was $2 million. Whatever, the intense response went to show how many do believe in the Real Presence and how much can be done and in a hurry when Catholics are set to defend their faith. "EBay finally cancelled the auction and sent me an e-mail and said it was against their policy," the man who made the bid told us. "I've asked them for clarification as to what policy this violates since they've previously said that sales of Eucharist are not prohibited. I'll let you know if I hear of anything from them. EBay apparently cancelled the auction only because bidding had gotten so high and the auction was drawing tremendous attention, giving eBay a bit of a public relations scare. As a bidder, I received a 'form letter' e- mail from eBay informing me that they cancelled the auction because it violated their listing guidelines. When I replied and asked for clarification if they've changed their policy, I only received 'form letter' e-mails referring me to their policies and further statements that they are not prohibited." The same thing happened with another sale that was reported by a member of a "boycott-eBay" group at "yahoogroups.com." "By the time I went to the site," notes another correspondent, "the item was gone." A woman from Atlanta named Cheri monitors eBay by placing it in a "favorites" link and finding an alert each time a Host comes up. Previously, eBay sold a facial image on a grilled-cheese sandwich that some tried to say was the Madonna, and there were also relics for sale from saints like Padre Pio. And a pyx. "Due to the fact that eBay's focus is to have a free and diverse community, we are reluctant to interfere with listings that are not illegal," an eBay spokesman tried to say. But when it came to the Eucharist, you folks would have none of it -- and kept eBay on the run. Some canceled eBay accounts. Others, including priests, called directly. And now eBay has sent this in a letter to protesters: "We understand that the listing of the Eucharist was highly upsetting to Catholic members of the eBay community and Catholics globally. Once this completed sale was brought to our attention, we consulted with a number of our users, including members of the Catholic Church, concerning what course we should take in the future should a similar listing appear on our site. We also consulted with members of other religions about items that might also be highly sacred and inappropriate for sale. As a result of this dialogue, we have concluded that sales of the Eucharist, and similar highly sacred items, are not appropriate on eBay. We have, therefore, broadened our policies and will remove those types of listings should they appear on the site in the future." There were petitions (one with now 34,000 signatures). There was a boycott. There were reports on Fox News. There were reports on a local CBS affiliate. And on MSNBC. There was a report in The Washington Times. There was a report over the Associated Press, and in Catholic newspapers such as The National Catholic Register. A novena was posted on eBay -- a novena against the selling of Hosts! "Prayers were answered," says Cheri. "Novenas are working. The listing was removed by eBay!" Oh, what times: Some protesters pointed out that eBay has a policy against selling body parts and that the Host is the Body and Blood of Our Lord Jesus. An Orthodox Archbishop warned that if eBay did not remove these kinds of sales, "I will ask everyone in my Archdiocese, every parish, every priest, every religious, every layperson to stop using eBay." "I am a Marine serving in Iraq," wrote another man named Christopher Warner. "We have a priest who visits about once a month to give us the sacraments of Confession and Holy Eucharist. We are men hungering for the Eucharist. To hear about such an abuse is very upsetting and is a mockery to all faithful believers who reverence the Lord's holy Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity in the Eucharist. Those who participate in such an act are like Judas. To deny the gravity of this offence is to 'Betray with a kiss as did Judas.' Not everything, or anyone, can be sold. When was the last time someone bought a slave on eBay? And you want to buy and sell God as a souvenir? Some things are not forgivable." Meanwhile, back to that case of the Bakersfield Host, purchased by the grandmother in North Carolina. "She makes one request of everyone who has been watching, wondering, and praying about these Hosts on eBay," said one of our informants. "Please pray The Angel's Prayer of Fatima. It has never been more appropriate. Oh Most Holy Trinity, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, I adore Thee profoundly. I offer Thee the most precious Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Jesus Christ, present in all the tabernacles of the world, in reparation for the outrages, sacrileges, and indifferences by which He is offended. By the infinite merits of the Sacred Heart of Jesus and the Immaculate Heart of Mary, I beg the conversion of poor sinners. Amen." ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> In low income neighborhoods, 84% do not own computers. 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