Peter via Postfix-users skrev den 2024-04-25 09:19:
On 15/04/24 10:14, Benny Pedersen via Postfix-users wrote:
Authentication-Results    list.sys4.de; dkim=pass header.d=porcupine.org; arc=none (Message is not ARC signed); dmarc=pass (Used From Domain Record) header.from=porcupine.org policy.dmarc=none

What does this have to to with Postfix, or even the Postfix mailing list? You're posting headers coming from Wietse's personal email, not the list itself.

No, score=-3.3 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AUTHRES_ARC_NONE=0.5, AUTHRES_DKIM_PASS=-0.5, AUTHRES_DMARC_PASS=-0.5, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.1, SPF_PASS=-0.1] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no

from authres perspective maillists can not be dmarc aligned, we all have to live with unalined maillist members

why is spf missing from you here ?, either sys4 desided to not pass spf results to authres header or it did not exits in the first place

why would i care of missing alined dmarc ?

dmarc can't be aligned with this missing,
This is just plain wrong. DMARC will align just fine with SPF missing if DKIM is correct and signed by the From: header domain.

i am not sure with this, maybe you will enligtment me on this case ?

i just complain for the authres in spamassassin can't see this detail
Unless you're referring to a message that Wietse sent you directly then these headers don't even apply to the mailing list.

not specifik anyone here, its imho just a fail that does not exits on dovecot maillist if you note the diffrent ?

The list software re-signs the message from postfix.org and the envelope sender and From: header are all changed to postfix.org so it's all in alignment.

resigns is a workaround on maillist that breaks dkim on purpose, if maillist or plain forwarders did not break dkim we won't need arc to fix any problems

Just to be clear, both porcupine.org and postfix.org have SPF and DKIM policies and Wietse's messages pass both when passing through the list.

this is fine, but arc sign, arc seal does not care on direkt mails

spamassassin DKIM_VALID_EF is maybe just a hack to track dmarc aligment without dmarc at all ? :=)

i just hope postfix.org and sys4 does as best as dovecot maillist do with spf



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