If the book is really out of print, maybe someone (e.g., the editor or the collected authors) could convince the copyright owner (Academic Press) to allow this to be a full content visible book in google books. It's there -- it's been scanned and OCRed. http://books.google.com/books?id=57wgAQAAIAAJ-- but you can only view small fragments of content.
Why have someone go to all that extra effort of scanning it a second time? (the answer might be that it's way to much work to convince Academic Press, but if you can convince them, I can find the info about how they, with a few clicks, make it available on line.) Robin On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Thomas Green <green...@ntlworld.com>wrote: > Hi Charles, > > That would be fantastic. If your student can really face doing that, she or > he would earn much gratitude. Maybe PPIG or VLHCC would give him/her a > reduced registration fee at the next meeting as a reward...... (Don't make > any promises, that's not in my gift, but I could encourage the committee to > smile on the idea.) > > Alan: what's the legal position? > > I'll email Jean-Michel and Paul Brna to get agreements from them. Who else > do we need agreement from? > > Well done Charles! > > Thomas > > > On 25 May 2010, at 19:30, Charles Knutson wrote: > > Thomas et al, > I managed to secure a hard copy of the ancient book in question. If no laws > would be broken, I can have one of my students scan the whole thing into a > PDF (or chapters, depending on preference) and put it into some publicly > accessible location. > > I'm on the road right now so lag time is a couple weeks. > > Let me know if there's a good reason why I shouldn't do this. :) > Chuck > > Charles D. Knutson, PhD > Associate Professor, Computer Science Dept. > Brigham Young University > www.charlesknutson.net > www.internetsafetypodcast.com > > Sent from my iPad > > On May 25, 2010, at 11:59 AM, Thomas Green <green...@ntlworld.com> wrote: > > Dear Lurkers, > > I have undertaken to put my chapters online. Can anyone give advice on how > to go about it? Do I just scan them into pdf files, or are there subtleties > I should be aware of? > > Thomas > > > > On 25 May 2010, at 15:51, Clendon Gibson wrote: > > I want to add my voice to the interested masses. I would guess that there > are others on the list who are interested, but are in lurker mode. > > Thank You! > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Thomas Green < <green...@ntlworld.com>green...@ntlworld.com> > *To:* Chris Bogart < <bog...@eecs.oregonstate.edu> > bog...@eecs.oregonstate.edu> > *Cc:* Alan Blackwell < <alan.blackw...@cl.cam.ac.uk> > alan.blackw...@cl.cam.ac.uk>; <ppig-discuss-list@open.ac.uk> > ppig-discuss-list@open.ac.uk > *Sent:* Sun, May 23, 2010 3:14:14 AM > *Subject:* Re: Electronic contents/chapters of the Psych of Prog book? > > I'll try to get my parts of the Psych of Prog book online asap. Delighted > that it's still of interest. I'll enquire whether Jean_michel Hoc can do the > same. > > Thomas Green > On 21 May 2010, at 19:20, Chris Bogart wrote: > > > My university library doesn't have it, but the catalog does list the > > table of contents with author names. I guess it's the book you're > > talking about, although the catalog only lists Hoc as the editor. > > > > Psychology of programming > > > > Author: Jean-Michel Hoc; European Association of Cognitive Ergonomics.; > et al > > Publisher: London : Academic, ©1990. > > > > Theoretical and methodological issues. Programming, programming > > languages and programming methods / C. Pair -- > > The nature of programming / T.R.G. Green -- > > The tasks of programming / Nancy Pennington and Beatrice Grabowski -- > > Human cognition and programming / Tom Ormerod -- > > Methodological issues in the study of programming / David J. Gilmore -- > > Language design and acquisition of programming. Expert programmers and > > programming languages / Marian Petre -- > > Programming languages as information structures / T.R.G. Green -- > > Language semantics, mental models and analogy / Jean-Michel Hoc and > > Anh Nguyen-Xuan -- > > Acquisition of programming knowledge and skills / Janine Rogalski and > > Renan Samurçay -- > > Programming languages in education : the search for an easy start / > > Patrick Mendelsohn, T.R.G. Green and Paul Brna -- > > Expert programming skills and job aids. Expert programming knowledge : > > a schema-based approach / Françoise Détienne -- > > Expert programming knowledge : a strategic approach / David J. Gilmore. > > Expert software design strategies / Willemien Visser and Jean-Michel Hoc > -- > > Broader issues. The psychology of programming in the large : team and > > organizational behavior / Bill Curtis and Diane Walz -- > > Research and practice : software design methods and tools / Barbara > > Kitchenham and Roland Carn. > > > > Chris Bogart > > <bog...@eecs.oregonstate.edu>bog...@eecs.oregonstate.edu > > > > > > On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Alan Blackwell > > < <alan.blackw...@cl.cam.ac.uk>alan.blackw...@cl.cam.ac.uk> wrote: > >> > >> I would like to collect a full set of the chapters from the > >> Hoc, Green, Samurcay & Gilmore book 'Psychology of Programming'. > >> > >> I have a vague memory that this might have been proposed on the > >> PPIG list before (perhaps even by me?), but can't find any result > >> among the PPIG site resources. > >> > >> The reason for this request is that I will be teaching a > >> Masters-level course on usability of programming languages in the > >> coming year, for which I think this is the best possible > >> textbook. The original book has been out of press for many > >> years, so it would be very difficult for my students to gain > >> access to it other than via electronic copies. > >> > >> 30 minutes with Google has determined that Francoise Detienne has > >> placed her chapter online (thanks Francoise!), but I couldn't > >> find any others. > >> <http://arxiv.org/ftp/cs/papers/0702/0702003.pdf> > http://arxiv.org/ftp/cs/papers/0702/0702003.pdf > >> > >> In absence of actual text, I would be very grateful for: > >> - contact with authors of the original chapters; or > >> - current email addresses of the authors; or even > >> - file containing the table of contents with author names. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Alan > >> -- > >> Alan Blackwell > >> Reader in Interdisciplinary Design, University of Cambridge > >> Further details from <http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~afb21/> > www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~afb21/ > >> > >> > >> -- > >> The Open University is incorporated by Royal Charter (RC 000391), an > exempt charity in England & Wales and a charity registered in Scotland (SC > 038302). > >> > > > > 73 Huntington Rd, York YO31 8RL > 01904-673675 > <http://homepage.ntlworld.com/greenery/> > http://homepage.ntlworld.com/greenery/ > > > > > > 73 Huntington Rd, York YO31 8RL > 01904-673675 > <http://homepage.ntlworld.com/greenery/> > http://homepage.ntlworld.com/greenery/ > > > > > 73 Huntington Rd, York YO31 8RL > 01904-673675 > http://homepage.ntlworld.com/greenery/ > > > >
