On Nov 5, 2010, at 7:38 AM, Dave Reynolds wrote:

> On Fri, 2010-11-05 at 12:11 +0000, Norman Gray wrote: 
>> Greetings,
>> 
>> On 2010 Nov 4, at 13:22, Ian Davis wrote:
>> 
>>> http://iand.posterous.com/is-303-really-necessary
>> 
>> I haven't been aware of the following formulation of Ian's problem+solution 
>> in the thread so far.  Apologies if I've missed it, or if (as I guess) it's 
>> deducible from someone's longer post.
>> 
>> vvvv
>> httpRange-14 requires that a URI with a 200 response MUST be an IR; a URI 
>> with a 303 MAY be a NIR.
>> 
>> Ian is (effectively) suggesting that a URI with a 200 response MAY be an IR, 
>> in the sense that it is defeasibly taken to be an IR, unless this is 
>> contradicted by a self-referring statement within the RDF obtained from the 
>> URI.
>> ^^^^
>> 
>> Is that about right?  That fits in with Harry's remarks about IRW, and the 
>> general suspicion of deriving important semantics from the details of the 
>> HTTP transaction.  Here, the only semantics derivable from the transaction 
>> is defeasible.  In the absence of RDF, this is equivalent to the 
>> httpRange-14 finding, so might require only adjustment, rather than 
>> replacement, of httpRange-14.
> 
> Very nice. That seems like an accurate and very helpful way of looking
> at Ian's proposal.
> 
> Dave

+1  

Pat


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