On Oct 16, 6:12 am, jcbollinger <john.bollin...@stjude.org> wrote: > For what it's worth, I always prefer to get source for third-party > software, and my absolute *least* favorite way to do so is from a > source-control repository. I particularly like source RPMs, but tarballs > generally work just fine for me. More generally, I want *one file*, > associated with a specific release of the software and so labeled, and > accessible via a general purpose network protocol such as HTTP or FTP from > a location sponsored by the project.
It is available from GitHub, tagged for each release, for example: https://github.com/puppetlabs/puppet/zipball/3.0.0 It's also available via Source RPM from our repos. > I don't see any dark conspiracy behind PL's website changes, but I am a bit > surprised by some of the responses from PL personnel. The tone, if not the > actual content, seems in some cases to say "there's nothing wrong, why are > you bothering us with this?" Clearly something *is* wrong as far as Adam > is concerned. PL is certainly not obligated to cater to any individual > user's preferences -- or even to the whole community's preferences -- but > it is not helpful to anyone to try, as some of the responses seemed to do, > to deny their validity. I'm not denying their validity of the issue. I am questioning what exactly the issue being raised is and the extent that it's a key issue for the community. > > Given a complaint that the source tarballs are hard to find, I would have > expected a response more along the lines of > > > We're sorry the changes to our web site have inconvenienced you. We > > assure you that our intent is not to hide or block access to open-source > > Puppet. We will consider whether the site can be changed further to better > > serve both PE and our open-source Puppet users. > > I might even have expected a suggestion to file a ticket or a solicitation > for further community comment. My analysis of the situation was that this was less about the location of tarballs or access to software (given the numerous other ways you can get the software) but rather about the definition of "free". Here some members of the community and Puppet Labs clearly differ. I believe, no matter what changes we make to our website, that the only way they will be satisfied is we return to a GPL-esque license. A change we're not going to make for a number of legitimate, documented, transparent business reasons. That limits our ability to have a productive conversation about these issues. That being said we are discussing internally whether to continue with this approach. We've not yet made a decision but I will communicate that decision either way when it's made. Kind Regards James Turnbull -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en.
