Hey Mark,

Yip yip - in total agreement here.

Sounds like a whole heap of us are going to be doing this anyway, so lets
firm-up[as in a crew].

Not sure how this will all pan out but I kind of like being in over my
head.

Could do with a project name at this point I reckon.

Julian


On 9 February 2012 12:09, marker <mar...@indymedia.org> wrote:

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> Thanks Julian,
>
> your email got me thinking about the state of linux audio distro's and
> the linux audio ecosystem, and this brought me to an idea of a possible
> way forward for us, as former users of the dearly lamented puredyne.
> Read on for a proposal of how I think we could move forward.
>
> I should just mention that although I've mostly been a lurker on this
> list, like many of you I've had excellent experiences of using puredyne
> in media workshops and hacklabs over the last few years. I've been
> reading people's comments here with interest.
>
> On 08/02/12 16:35, Julian Brooks wrote:
> > Obviously going to need a realtime kernel.  Are there really decent
> > benefits from rolling your own to fit your own machine?  And again if so
> > - how?
>
> My understanding is that the mainline 3.x series kernels have integrated
> most of the patches we used to have to apply ourselves to make an RT
> kernel. So for most people, I guess the answer to your question will be
> no, there aren't advantages, unless you have esoteric needs.
>
> > Personally I would be well chuffed to have a lappy where pretty much
> > everything is compiled and tweeked for my machine.  Not sure how big the
> > performance gains would be but personal satisfaction-wise it would be
> > sizeable.
>
> Satisfying when it works, but easily broken and impossible to support,
> from my experience. Of course, the greater your skills, the further you
> can go with compiling your own software. This got me thinking about
> empowerment (see below).
>
> But the point about configuration and system tweeking is a good one.
>
> At the moment, I can see several audio distro's with mediocre
> distro-specific documentation. There are also documentation projects
> that are not distro-specific, that have limited usefulness because much
> of the content is outdated or will only work in particular circumstances.
>
> I see an opportunity here for us to put the collective wisdom on this
> list to work on creating a linux-audio documentation project, that would
> be aimed at empowering former puredyne users to configure and tweak a
> base debian system into something like puredyne.
>
> This could include an editorial system to make sure that information
> remained current and applicable to debian-stable. When each 'stable'
> becomes 'oldstable', we could archive that set of docs and bring out a
> new 'edition' specifically tested on and aimed at the new stable release.
>
> I can see that if a group of us committed to start working on a wiki
> now, with a view to releasing our first set of documents to coincide
> with the release of wheezy (or as close as possible), a lot of people
> would see the value of this as a unifying project, not another
> duplication or derivative effort. I would expect we'd get a lot of
> support from the debian-multimedia people, but our project would have a
> different scope in being focussed on empowering people to make art using
> FLOSS. And there would be plenty of scope for writing broth-like
> scripts, automated installers and so on - but keeping everything
> referenced to a specific base distro.
>
> What do you all think about this? Would people be up for it? Or can
> people think of other ways forward we should discuss first?
>
> Mark
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