On Mon, 2009-06-22 at 11:31 -0700, Ben Bangert wrote:
> 
> On Jun 21, 2009, at 12:40 PM, Iain Duncan wrote:
> 
> >> I don't know what Ben has up his sleeve but I think the core is
> >> essentially done with 0.9.7.  The main incremental changes are on the
> >> periphery: improve @validate, replace @beaker_cache, improve the
> >> dependency documentation.  I had a second job which sucked up all my
> >> time, and I'm just now getting back into programming.I expect the
> >> other developers have likewise been working on other stuff.
> 
> Yep, that and wipe out the legacy code, which is actually about 1/3rd  
> of the Pylons 0.9.7 code-base.
> 
> > Thanks Mike. I think for marketing purposes, it's pretty important  
> > that
> > this kind of stuff be kept up to date. A lot of people checking Pylons
> > out are going to want to make sure it isn't just going to 'stop' even
> > though the stability is also a huge selling point.
> 
> Yes, it does become tricky on "what to sell" in the way of 'new' when  
> the scope of the framework is complete, and its mature. One of the  
> issues is that Pylons itself isn't very plugin-compatible, and even  
> Django's methodology of "plugin apps" is having issues scaling with  
> conflicting settings.py files and such.
> 
> > Mmm, I was following that on pypefitters and am disappointed that
> > efforts to continue seem to be being abandoned. I sure hope those
> > involved decide it's worthwhile after all.
> 
> Oh, the effort is still continuing. We're kicking around a new and  
> small little framework called Pypes at the moment, that is designed  
> for pluggable apps, components, etc. from the get-go in a way that  
> scales to large numbers of plug-ins and settings. I believe this would  
> keep with the philosophy of being flexible, while allowing much better  
> re-usability between websites like how the Django apps allow a manner  
> of re-usability.
> 
> I'll post updates as we make more progress.

Thanks Ben, that is great to hear! Some form of blog on the pylons site
about what's going in the future would be awesome if you have the time.

Iain



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