Actually kinda nice to see this mailing list spring to some sort of life. I have been weighing my options in terms of trying to author something Python related, but the subject matter is escaping me. Every time I come across a topic that seems like a winner, I find that book with some other author's name on it on o'Reilly's bookshelf.
= / chalmer On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 8:10 AM <[email protected]> wrote: > Send Python-authors mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-authors > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Python-authors digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: what should we do with this list? (Steve Holden) > 2. Re: what should we do with this list? (Brian Jones) > 3. Re: what should we do with this list? (Doug Hellmann) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2016 17:19:49 +0100 > From: Steve Holden <[email protected]> > To: Vasudev Ram <[email protected]> > Cc: Doug Hellmann <[email protected]>, Python Authors > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Python-authors] what should we do with this list? > Message-ID: > < > camofdrck2boehud2-sptz_ju8c7hhdy09-rez-2aou2jwng...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Maybe we could encouraging some swapping of war stories, under "frieNDA". > > I can mention that I have an authoring project on the go - with Alex > Martelli and Anna Ravenscroft I am working on the 3rd Edition of "Python in > a Nutshell." I spent this weekend taking the "What's New in Python 3.6" > documentation apart and analysing the changes so that we could be sure that > the book will be as up to date as possible when it's published early next > year. > > O'Reilly wanted to have the book out for Christmas, and I fought hard to > delay it, on the grounds that the publication timetable would be too rushed > to submit before Christmas, product quality would have suffered and we > wouldn't have been able to be definitive on 3.6. The first and only other > time I wrote a major work (Python Web Programming, published in 2002) I was > a brand new author, and tended to defer too easily to the publisher. But > now I hope I have learned how to make an argument to them in business > terms. > > So, having tried to get the party started, what's everyone else working on? > > regards > Steve > > Steve Holden > > On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 3:57 PM, Vasudev Ram <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Steve Holden wrote: > > > > >But if nobody has the time to perform the resultant tasks, the list > would > > probably be better fading away. > > > > What would be those resultant tasks? IIRC it's quite a while since I > > saw any emails from this list, so I don't remember what kinds of > > emails there may have been, earlier, of the type you refer to. Was it > > something like other authors on this list being able to help out > > anyone posting questions as a first-time author, with some advice? > > > > (I was earlier going to say maybe close the list, but it seems like a > > pity to let the effort of starting it go waste). > > > > But, sort of agreeing now with Steve's and Mike Driscoll's suggestion > > that it be kept open, and just see if anything happens - i.e. if there > > will be any activity on it and if it turns out to be useful to people. > > That still doesn't solve how new people will get to know of it, > > though. Maybe it could be mentioned somewhere on the Python Wiki, if > > that is not already done? > > And/or a post once in a while on the PSF blog? > > > > My 2c. > > > > -- > > Vasudev Ram > > - gumroad.com/vasudevram | jugad2.blogspot.com | vasudevram.github.io > > > > FlyWheel - Managed WordPress Hosting: - http://share.getf.ly/p35s5a > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-authors/attachments/20161010/1e10b0c2/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2016 13:58:37 -0400 > From: Brian Jones <[email protected]> > To: Steve Holden <[email protected]> > Cc: Vasudev Ram <[email protected]>, Python Authors > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Python-authors] what should we do with this list? > Message-ID: > <CAM=1cj= > [email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 12:19 PM, Steve Holden <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > So, having tried to get the party started, what's everyone else working > on? > > I'm working on defining clear goals in the writing space for myself. > I'm scattered on multiple personal writing projects, in various stages > of completion. One I thought was completed until I reread it and > determined it was utter crap, so I'm revising it. Another is a blog > that requires a backlog of material. Another is transcribing 32 years > of personal journals into some digital format with inline comments > from the "today" version of me :) > > None of my current writing projects are technical (though the blog is > about leading technical teams). I'm doing technical *work* in terms of > keeping up to speed on various technical fronts, but I'm not to the > point of writing about them. I miss that kind of writing, truth be > told. > > I have to say, it's good to see the names of old friends in my inbox again > :) > brian > > -- > Brian K. Jones > My Blog http://www.protocolostomy.com > Follow me http://twitter.com/bkjones > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2016 14:10:20 -0400 > From: Doug Hellmann <[email protected]> > To: Python Authors <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Python-authors] what should we do with this list? > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > On Oct 10, 2016, at 12:19 PM, Steve Holden <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Maybe we could encouraging some swapping of war stories, under "frieNDA". > > > > I can mention that I have an authoring project on the go - with Alex > Martelli and Anna Ravenscroft I am working on the 3rd Edition of "Python in > a Nutshell." I spent this weekend taking the "What's New in Python 3.6" > documentation apart and analysing the changes so that we could be sure that > the book will be as up to date as possible when it's published early next > year. > > I?m working on updating ?The Python Standard Library by Example? to work > with Python 3.5. I haven?t tested any of my examples to make sure they > still work with 3.6, and I?m close enough to my deadline that I don?t think > I want to try it for now. Unless someone thinks there?s a critical new > module in that version? > > > > > O'Reilly wanted to have the book out for Christmas, and I fought hard to > delay it, on the grounds that the publication timetable would be too rushed > to submit before Christmas, product quality would have suffered and we > wouldn't have been able to be definitive on 3.6. The first and only other > time I wrote a major work (Python Web Programming, published in 2002) I was > a brand new author, and tended to defer too easily to the publisher. But > now I hope I have learned how to make an argument to them in business terms. > > > > So, having tried to get the party started, what's everyone else working > on? > > > > regards > > Steve > > > > Steve Holden > > > > On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 3:57 PM, Vasudev Ram <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > Steve Holden wrote: > > > > >But if nobody has the time to perform the resultant tasks, the list > would probably be better fading away. > > > > What would be those resultant tasks? IIRC it's quite a while since I > > saw any emails from this list, so I don't remember what kinds of > > emails there may have been, earlier, of the type you refer to. Was it > > something like other authors on this list being able to help out > > anyone posting questions as a first-time author, with some advice? > > > > (I was earlier going to say maybe close the list, but it seems like a > > pity to let the effort of starting it go waste). > > > > But, sort of agreeing now with Steve's and Mike Driscoll's suggestion > > that it be kept open, and just see if anything happens - i.e. if there > > will be any activity on it and if it turns out to be useful to people. > > That still doesn't solve how new people will get to know of it, > > though. Maybe it could be mentioned somewhere on the Python Wiki, if > > that is not already done? > > And/or a post once in a while on the PSF blog? > > > > My 2c. > > > > -- > > Vasudev Ram > > - gumroad.com/vasudevram <http://gumroad.com/vasudevram> | > jugad2.blogspot.com <http://jugad2.blogspot.com/> | vasudevram.github.io < > http://vasudevram.github.io/> > > > > FlyWheel - Managed WordPress Hosting: - http://share.getf.ly/p35s5a < > http://share.getf.ly/p35s5a> > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-authors/attachments/20161010/0f078960/attachment.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Python-authors mailing list > [email protected] > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-authors > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Python-authors Digest, Vol 31, Issue 4 > ********************************************* > -- Chalmer Lowe, MS PyHawaii Dark Art of Coding Booz Allen Hamilton
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