On 10/12/05, Michael Chermside <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm not familiar with the clever trick Greg is proposing, but I > do agree that _IF_ everything else were equal, then Queue seems > to belong in the threading module. My biggest reason is that I > think anyone who is new to threading probably shouldn't use any > communication mechanism OTHER than Queue or something similar > which has been carefully designed by someone knowlegable.
I *still* disagree. At some level, Queue is just an application of threading, while the threading module provides the basic API (never mind that there's an even more basic API, the thread module -- it's too low-level to consider and we actively recommend against it, at least I hope we do). While at this point there may be no other "applications" of threading in the standard library, that may not remain the case; it's quite possble that some of the discussions of threading APIs will eventually lead to a PEP proposing a different threading paradigm build on top of the threading module. I'm using the word "application" loosely here because I realize one person's application is another's primitive operation. But I object to the idea that just because A and B are often used together or A is recommended for programs using B that A and B should live in the same module. We don't put urllib and httplib in the socket module either! Now, if we had a package structure, I would sure like to see threading and Queue end up as neighbors in the same package. But I don't think it's right to package them all up in the same module. (Not to say that autoloading is a bad idea; I'm -0 on it for myself, but I can see use cases; but it doesn't change my mind on whether Queue should become threading.Queue. I guess I didn't articulate my reasoning for being against that well previously and tried to hide behind the load time argument.) BTW, Queue.Queue violates a recent module naming standard; it is now considered bad style to name the class and the module the same. Modules and packages should have short all-lowercase names, classes should be CapWords. Even the same but different case is bad style. (I'd suggest queueing.Queue except nobody can type that right. :) -- --Guido van Rossum (home page: http://www.python.org/~guido/) _______________________________________________ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
