On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 11:00 PM, Antoine Pitrou <solip...@pitrou.net>wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 22:46:58 +0200 > Dag Sverre Seljebotn <d.s.seljeb...@astro.uio.no> wrote: > > > The other thing is, the folks in distutils2 and myself, have zero > > > knowledge about compilers. That's why we got very frustrated not to see > > > people with that knowledge come and help us in this area. > > > > Here's the flip side: If you have zero knowledge about compilers, it's > > going to be almost impossible to have a meaningful discussion about a > > compilation PEP. > > If a PEP is being discussed, even a packaging PEP, it involves all of > python-dev, so Tarek and Éric not being knowledgeable in compilers is > not a big problem. > > > The necessary prerequisites in this case is not merely "knowledge of > > compilers". To avoid repeating mistakes of the past, the prerequisites > > for a meaningful discussion is years of hard-worn experience building > > software in various languages, on different platforms, using different > > build tools. > > This is precisely the kind of knowledge that a PEP is aimed at > distilling. > What would you imagine such a PEP would contain ? If you don't need to customize the compilation, then I would say refactoring what's in distutils is good enough. If you need customization, then I am convinced one should just use one of the existing build tools (waf, fbuild, scons, etc…). Python has more than enough of them already. By refactoring, I mean extracting it completely from command, and have an API similar to e.g. fbuild ( https://github.com/felix-lang/fbuild/blob/master/examples/c/fbuildroot.py), i.e. you basically have a class PythonBuilder.build_extension(name, sources, options). The key point is to remove any dependency on commands. If fbuild were not python3-specific, I would say just use that. It would cover most usecases. Actually, > Regards > > Antoine. > > > _______________________________________________ > Python-Dev mailing list > Python-Dev@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev > Unsubscribe: > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/cournape%40gmail.com >
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