On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 7:21 AM Si-Wei Liu <si-wei....@oracle.com> wrote:
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> On 3/24/2024 11:13 PM, Jason Wang wrote:
> > On Sat, Mar 23, 2024 at 5:14 AM Si-Wei Liu <si-wei....@oracle.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On 3/21/2024 10:08 PM, Jason Wang wrote:
> >>> On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 5:43 AM Si-Wei Liu <si-wei....@oracle.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On 3/20/2024 8:56 PM, Jason Wang wrote:
> >>>>> On Thu, Mar 21, 2024 at 5:03 AM Si-Wei Liu <si-wei....@oracle.com> 
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>> On 3/19/2024 8:27 PM, Jason Wang wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 6:16 AM Si-Wei Liu <si-wei....@oracle.com> 
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On 3/17/2024 8:22 PM, Jason Wang wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 16, 2024 at 2:45 AM Si-Wei Liu <si-wei....@oracle.com> 
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On 3/14/2024 9:03 PM, Jason Wang wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 15, 2024 at 5:39 AM Si-Wei Liu 
> >>>>>>>>>>> <si-wei....@oracle.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On setups with one or more virtio-net devices with vhost on,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> dirty tracking iteration increases cost the bigger the number
> >>>>>>>>>>>> amount of queues are set up e.g. on idle guests migration the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> following is observed with virtio-net with vhost=on:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 48 queues -> 78.11%  [.] vhost_dev_sync_region.isra.13
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 8 queues -> 40.50%   [.] vhost_dev_sync_region.isra.13
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 1 queue -> 6.89%     [.] vhost_dev_sync_region.isra.13
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 2 devices, 1 queue -> 18.60%  [.] vhost_dev_sync_region.isra.14
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> With high memory rates the symptom is lack of convergence as soon
> >>>>>>>>>>>> as it has a vhost device with a sufficiently high number of 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> queues,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the sufficient number of vhost devices.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On every migration iteration (every 100msecs) it will redundantly
> >>>>>>>>>>>> query the *shared log* the number of queues configured with vhost
> >>>>>>>>>>>> that exist in the guest. For the virtqueue data, this is 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> necessary,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> but not for the memory sections which are the same. So 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> essentially
> >>>>>>>>>>>> we end up scanning the dirty log too often.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> To fix that, select a vhost device responsible for scanning the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> log with regards to memory sections dirty tracking. It is 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> selected
> >>>>>>>>>>>> when we enable the logger (during migration) and cleared when we
> >>>>>>>>>>>> disable the logger. If the vhost logger device goes away for some
> >>>>>>>>>>>> reason, the logger will be re-selected from the rest of vhost
> >>>>>>>>>>>> devices.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> After making mem-section logger a singleton instance, constant 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> cost
> >>>>>>>>>>>> of 7%-9% (like the 1 queue report) will be seen, no matter how 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> many
> >>>>>>>>>>>> queues or how many vhost devices are configured:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 48 queues -> 8.71%    [.] vhost_dev_sync_region.isra.13
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 2 devices, 8 queues -> 7.97%   [.] vhost_dev_sync_region.isra.14
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Co-developed-by: Joao Martins <joao.m.mart...@oracle.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Joao Martins <joao.m.mart...@oracle.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Si-Wei Liu <si-wei....@oracle.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> ---
> >>>>>>>>>>>> v3 -> v4:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>         - add comment to clarify effect on cache locality and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>           performance
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> v2 -> v3:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>         - add after-fix benchmark to commit log
> >>>>>>>>>>>>         - rename vhost_log_dev_enabled to vhost_dev_should_log
> >>>>>>>>>>>>         - remove unneeded comparisons for backend_type
> >>>>>>>>>>>>         - use QLIST array instead of single flat list to store 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> vhost
> >>>>>>>>>>>>           logger devices
> >>>>>>>>>>>>         - simplify logger election logic
> >>>>>>>>>>>> ---
> >>>>>>>>>>>>        hw/virtio/vhost.c         | 67 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-----
> >>>>>>>>>>>>        include/hw/virtio/vhost.h |  1 +
> >>>>>>>>>>>>        2 files changed, 62 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> diff --git a/hw/virtio/vhost.c b/hw/virtio/vhost.c
> >>>>>>>>>>>> index 612f4db..58522f1 100644
> >>>>>>>>>>>> --- a/hw/virtio/vhost.c
> >>>>>>>>>>>> +++ b/hw/virtio/vhost.c
> >>>>>>>>>>>> @@ -45,6 +45,7 @@
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>        static struct vhost_log 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> *vhost_log[VHOST_BACKEND_TYPE_MAX];
> >>>>>>>>>>>>        static struct vhost_log 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> *vhost_log_shm[VHOST_BACKEND_TYPE_MAX];
> >>>>>>>>>>>> +static QLIST_HEAD(, vhost_dev) 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> vhost_log_devs[VHOST_BACKEND_TYPE_MAX];
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>        /* Memslots used by backends that support private 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> memslots (without an fd). */
> >>>>>>>>>>>>        static unsigned int used_memslots;
> >>>>>>>>>>>> @@ -149,6 +150,47 @@ bool vhost_dev_has_iommu(struct vhost_dev 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> *dev)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>            }
> >>>>>>>>>>>>        }
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> +static inline bool vhost_dev_should_log(struct vhost_dev *dev)
> >>>>>>>>>>>> +{
> >>>>>>>>>>>> +    assert(dev->vhost_ops);
> >>>>>>>>>>>> +    assert(dev->vhost_ops->backend_type > 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> VHOST_BACKEND_TYPE_NONE);
> >>>>>>>>>>>> +    assert(dev->vhost_ops->backend_type < 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> VHOST_BACKEND_TYPE_MAX);
> >>>>>>>>>>>> +
> >>>>>>>>>>>> +    return dev == 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> QLIST_FIRST(&vhost_log_devs[dev->vhost_ops->backend_type]);
> >>>>>>>>>>> A dumb question, why not simple check
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> dev->log == vhost_log_shm[dev->vhost_ops->backend_type]
> >>>>>>>>>> Because we are not sure if the logger comes from vhost_log_shm[] or
> >>>>>>>>>> vhost_log[]. Don't want to complicate the check here by calling 
> >>>>>>>>>> into
> >>>>>>>>>> vhost_dev_log_is_shared() everytime when the .log_sync() is called.
> >>>>>>>>> It has very low overhead, isn't it?
> >>>>>>>> Whether this has low overhead will have to depend on the specific
> >>>>>>>> backend's implementation for .vhost_requires_shm_log(), which the 
> >>>>>>>> common
> >>>>>>>> vhost layer should not assume upon or rely on the current 
> >>>>>>>> implementation.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> static bool vhost_dev_log_is_shared(struct vhost_dev *dev)
> >>>>>>>>> {
> >>>>>>>>>          return dev->vhost_ops->vhost_requires_shm_log &&
> >>>>>>>>>                 dev->vhost_ops->vhost_requires_shm_log(dev);
> >>>>>>>>> }
> >>>>>>> For example, if I understand the code correctly, the log type won't be
> >>>>>>> changed during runtime, so we can endup with a boolean to record that
> >>>>>>> instead of a query ops?
> >>>>>> Right now the log type won't change during runtime, but I am not sure 
> >>>>>> if
> >>>>>> this may prohibit future revisit to allow change at the runtime,
> >>>>> We can be bothered when we have such a request then.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> then
> >>>>>> there'll be complex code involvled to maintain the state.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Other than this, I think it's insufficient to just check the shm log
> >>>>>> v.s. normal log. The logger device requires to identify a leading 
> >>>>>> logger
> >>>>>> device that gets elected in vhost_dev_elect_mem_logger(), as all the
> >>>>>> dev->log points to the same logger that is refenerce counted, that we
> >>>>>> have to add extra field and complex logic to maintain the election
> >>>>>> status.
> >>>>> One thing I don't understand here (and in the changelog) is why do we
> >>>>> need an election here?
> >>>> vhost_sync_dirty_bitmap() not just scans the guest memory sections but
> >>>> the specific one for virtqueues (used rings) also. To save more CPU
> >>>> cycles to the best extend, the guest memory must be scanned only once in
> >>>> each log iteration, though the logging for used rings would still have
> >>>> to use the specific vhost instance, so all vhost_device instance still
> >>>> keeps the dev->log pointer to the shared log as-is. Generally the shared
> >>>> memory logger can be picked from an arbitrary vhost_device instance, but
> >>>> to keep the code simple, performant and predictable
> >>> This is the point, I don't see why election is simpler than picking an
> >>> arbitrary shared log in this case.
> >> Maybe I missed your point, but I am confused and fail to understand why
> >> electing a fixed vhost_dev is not as simple? Regardless of the
> >> specifics, I think the point is one _fixed_ vhost_dev has to be picked
> >> amongst all the instances per backend type in charge of logging guest
> >> memory, no matter if it's at the start on the list or not.
> > See below.
> >
> >>>> , logger selection is
> >>>> made on the control path at the vhost add/remove time rather than be
> >>>> determined at the dirty log collection runtime, the latter of which is
> >>>> in the hotpath.
> >>>>
> >>>>>> I thought that Eugenio's previous suggestion tried to simplify
> >>>>>> the logic in vhost_dev_elect_mem_logger(), as the QLIST_FIRST macro 
> >>>>>> that
> >>>>>> gets expanded to use the lh_first field for the QLIST would simply
> >>>>>> satisfy the basic need. Why extra logic to make the check ever more
> >>>>>> complex, is there any benefit by adding more fields to the vhost_dev?
> >>>>> I don't get here, the idea is to just pick one shared log which should
> >>>>> be much more simpler than what is proposed here.
> >>>> The code you showed earlier won't work as all vhost_device instance
> >>>> points to the same dev->log device...
> >>> This part I don't understand.
> >> vhost_log_get() has the following:
> >>
> >>       log = share ? vhost_log_shm[backend_type] : vhost_log[backend_type];
> >>
> >>       if (!log || log->size != size) {
> >>           log = vhost_log_alloc(size, share);
> >>           if (share) {
> >>               vhost_log_shm[backend_type] = log;
> >>           } else {
> >>               vhost_log[backend_type] = log;
> >>           }
> >>       } else {
> >>           ++log->refcnt;
> >>       }
> >>
> >> So for a specific backend type, vhost_log_get() would return the same
> >> logger device (stored at either vhost_log_shm[] or vhost_log[]) to all
> >> vhost_dev instances, and the check you suggested earlier:
> >>
> >> dev->log == vhost_log_shm[dev->vhost_ops->backend_type]
> >>
> >> will always hold true if the vhost_dev instance (representing the
> >> specific virtqueue) is active.
> > Right, so the point is see if we can find something simpler to avoid
> > the QLIST as it involves vhost_dev which seems unnecessary.
> To make it independent of the specific vhost_dev, it would require the
> framework (migration dirty logger) to pass down "dirty_sync_count" like
> information to the vhost layer through memory listener .log_sync
> interface. I'm not sure if this change is worth the effort, as this
> patch is meant to fix a long standing bug

I may miss something but it looks to be a performance optimization.

> I suppose we need to find out
> a way that is applicable to back-port to past -stable's.
>
> >
> > Does something like a counter work?
> It won't. It seems the "rounds" counter is still per vhost_dev instance,
> but we need it per migration log_sync iteration across all vhost_dev
> instance of same backend type. Maybe I miss something, but I don't see
> how easily it would be to come up with proper accounting for "rounds",
> if not going through the list of vhost_dev instances at the run time
> (which is what I tried to avoid).

Ok, so I think I'm fine with this now.

So the root cause is the multiple listeners which we could tweak in the future.

Acked-by: Jason Wang <jasow...@redhat.com>

Thanks

>
>
> Thanks,
> -Siwei
> >
> > vhost_sync_dirty_bitmap() {
> >        rounds ++;
> >        vhost_dev_sync_region(rounds);
> > }
> >
> > vhost_dev_sync_region(rounds) {
> >        if (dev->log->rounds == rounds)
> >             return;
> >        else
> >             dev->log->rounds;
> > }
> >
> > (pseudo codes, just used to demonstrate the idea).
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >> Regards,
> >> -Siwei
> >>> Thanks
> >>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> -Siwei
> >>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>> -Siwei
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> And it helps to simplify the logic.
> >>>>>>>> Generally yes, but when it comes to hot path operations the 
> >>>>>>>> performance
> >>>>>>>> consideration could override this principle. I think there's no harm 
> >>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>> check against logger device cached in vhost layer itself, and the
> >>>>>>>> current patch does not create a lot of complexity or performance side
> >>>>>>>> effect (actually I think the conditional should be very 
> >>>>>>>> straightforward
> >>>>>>>> to turn into just a couple of assembly compare and branch 
> >>>>>>>> instructions
> >>>>>>>> rather than indirection through another jmp call).
> >>>>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> -Siwei
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> -Siwei
> >>>>>>>>>>> ?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>>>>>>>
>


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