Yes at last some sense about copyright ; one of 3 major topics that are
stifling QL viability.

If David Gilham is willing to release his work as freeware & he and others
honesty believe and with reasonable
justification i.e.  emails, or letters or well recalled conversations that
Freddie Vaccha has also agreed that
the work (specifically perfection and related support programmes) to which
he (FV) actually holds intellectual rights
and has been assigned as freeware then this "betatest" version may also be
passed on as freeware. If the holders
of this version are still concerned about their responsibility to FV and
cannot contact him all they need is the
agreement of the individual or group (e.g. Quanta) to whom the software is
released that the recipient or group
will assume responsibility for any and all individually or collectively,
financial compensation to the intellectual
property holder that might arise out of any putative loss of profits to the
copyright holder as a result of the release.
Dont forget that copyright is basically about ideas as money which depends
on the existence of a market.

How many copies of Perfection have you sold in the last 5 years, DP, Roy or
Jochem or Darren or D&D or DJPD
or Quanta ???????

My estimate  for profits for perfection sales for 2003 to 2004 is
?000000.00p

I have the idea that no one sold it since digital precision stopped trading
in 1993 or there abouts and there
has been no commercial effort by the copyright holders since DP stopped
trading to sell DP programmes, or
in any other way to assert copyright, so in any practical sense rights to
costly financial compensation have
been forfeit as a result of no commercial loss through the personal choice
of the copyright holders especially
as they have indicated their wilingness to release this programme as
freeware, presumably in
recognition of the poor market 10+ years ago and profits already realised.

Copyright laws exist to protect the developers ( and their assignees)
intellectual rights to a profit.
Where a theoretical market exists without a possibility of a current
commercial profit but where profits have
been milked to satisfaction in the past copyright holders have a logical
responsibility to the market to release
their grip on profits to allow the market to redevelop into a position where
they might again realise aspirations
of intellectual copyright financially. Simply put they have a legal and
moral obligation to their customers if
they continue in business. If they do not continue in business they have no
obligation to their previous customers
but as they are no longer in business they have no legal, commercial or
moral right to assert ownership of
material where any commercial or any other market no longer exists.
Basically same as if you are dead in the UK.

Thoughts for the day

Duncan
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Wolfgang
Lenerz
Sent: 08 October 2004 17:53
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Perfection: my take on it


On 8 Oct 2004 at 9:44, David Gilham wrote:

>  (...)
>. For what its worth Perfection has not been released as
> freeware or public domain and I would need permission from Freddy Vaccha
> to relase the binary let alone the sources to the general QL community.


Hmm, Darren stated:

"Freddy gave permission for the original version to be released, ie. the one
he created".

If that's so, and if YOU agree to do the same with the modifications you've
made, there shoudln't be ny problem to release your version!

I don't know whther FV also released the sources (Darren?) but at least you
could release the compiled version!


Wolfgang
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