So far as I know I only have the files which are on the Sinclair QL Homepage - certainly I can't see anything on my hard disk!

Rich


On 28/06/2015 10:51, Ralf Reköndt wrote:
Rich Mellor has the complete package, as has George Gwilt. So maybe one of them can send this to Dilwyn.

Cheers...Ralf

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Hi Ralf,

Thank you for the clarification, I remember in the early 1990s Martin
sent me an message via FidoNET: QL.INIT indocating that the WIN device
could be included in the DEVLINK process, by patching the TK3 file the
the WIN device.

This allowed the WIN to have TK3 style directories, at that time I used
Minerva, as SMSQ/E was not stable at that time.

I will see if I can find the echomail message and post it here.

With regards to the Manual, there is a manual in the archive with the ROM.

I have just noticed that the TK3_ROM is a rom image, so LRESPR will not
load it, you have use EPROM_LOAD.

I have a Digital Precision Disk of TK3, which has a LRESPRable file, I
will send this to Dilwyn, since it id freeware now.

Seems all the QL software I have bought is free now...

Regards,

Derek

On 28/06/15 09:16, Ralf Reköndt wrote:
No, they aren't "Hard Devices". Martin has developed an idea from me a s
follows:

I had quite a few games on one flp. And I wanted to put them in a kind
of directory, say Game1_, Game2_ and so on. That was long before TT's
hard directories, lets call them "TK2 directories", just an addition to
the filename. As the different game programs can't cope with this
addition in the filename, I asked Martin to make a solution to that, so
I can (of course with TK2)

DDOWN Game1_
LRUN BOOT

And the games code finds all of its files, TK3 pushed the addition
GAME1_ to all of its file operations. That worked under SuperBASIC and
under machine code level.

As I said, all without TT's hard directories. It is not guaranteed, that
it will work with that. Martin links all drectory devide drivers during
initialisation of TK3 (or DEVLINK), except the device WIN, as this
should always do his own stuff.

A problem is, that Martin uses some kind of free places of system
variables, which TT later used on his own, although Martin has sent
documentation about that early enough to TT.

One can read in the SMSQ/E version documentation, that from one version,
TT has disabled the intialisaton of TK3. So things may go wrong.

There were times in the 1980s, where not all programmers are loved.

Cheers...Ralf

I hope, to make it a bit clearer.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Derek Stewart" <de...@q40.de>
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Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Toolkit 3



On 28/06/15 07:54, Michael Bulford wrote:
Hi,

In the latest Quanta magazine, Toolkit 3 is now advertised as
freeware. After downloading and unzipping the file, it wouldn't work,
it just freezes the QL.  I've tried using LRESPR with both QPC2 and
Q-emuLator, both without joy.  There's no instructions in the user
manual.  Has anyone tried this?

Michael
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Hi Michael,

I used use on a Minerva when the Toolkit 3 was commercial.

As far as I can remember Toolkit 3 has a procure called DEVLINK, which
alters the QDOS devices MDV, FLP, RAM to use attempt at hard directories.

This was prior to SMSQ/E and Level 2 & 3 device drivers, Toolkit 3
maybe not run on an SMSQ/E system for that reason.

There is a manual in the Digital Precision software.

Regards,

Derek
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