hrm..i seem to be having problems with ORBS and RBL. i have followed the instructions from http://www.summersault.com/chris/techno/qmail/qmail-antispam.html and modified my /var/qmail/supervise/qmail-smtpd/run file from #!/bin/sh QMAILDUID=`id -u qmaild` NOFILESGID=`id -g qmaild` MAXSMTPD=`cat /var/qmail/control/concurrencyincoming` exec /usr/local/bin/softlimit -m 2000000 \ /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -v -p -x /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -c "$MAXSMTPD" \ -u "$QMAILDUID" -g "$NOFILESGID" 0 smtp /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd 2>&1 to this #!/bin/sh QMAILDUID=`id -u qmaild` NOFILESGID=`id -g qmaild` MAXSMTPD=`cat /var/qmail/control/concurrencyincoming` exec /usr/local/bin/softlimit -m 2000000 \ tcpserver -p -v -x/etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -c "$MAXSMTPD" \ -u "$QMAILDUID" -g "$NOFILESGID" 0 25 \ rblsmtpd -rinputs.orbs.org -rblackholes.mail-abuse.org \ /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd 2>&1 i test the filter using - http://www.orbs.org/testingfilters.html and i get both mails back...am i overlooking something? after i tackle this i'd also like to see if anyone has any usage statastics on usage or qmtp. ~kurth Kurth Bemis Partner/Senior Network Admin/Engineer USAExpress.net Owner, Ozone Computer PGP key Available (http://www.usaexpress.net/kurth/pgp) ====================================================================== The world really isn't any worse. It's just that the news coverage is so much better. ====================================================================== Donate your wasted CPU cycles to Distributed.net (http://www.distributed.net)