On 03/29/13 15:27, Claudio Carbone wrote:
On 29/03/13 19:26, Brian Utterback wrote:
As unruh said, if there was a way to improve the accuracy of the measurement over the network like that, NTP would already be doing it.

If so why doesn't the offset oscillate?
If NTP were a real compensation system, it should oscillate around the setpoint. Instead I noticed a nearly static offset, at least during the 15 minutes observation time.



This has to do with another reason that taking the average offset doesn't help. Each data point has its own error possible as determined by the round trip time of the polling process. For instance, if the round trip time were 1ns, then we know that the calculated offset between the clocks can not be in error by more than 1ns. But if it were 1 minute, then we can only say that the calculated offset is within 1 minute of the actual offset. There are some tricks that NTP uses to eliminate the processing time from the trip time, and the result is called the "delay" in the ntpq output. But it sets a maximum error in calculating the offset between a system and the server.

So, what NTP does is store the last 8 polls and uses the poll that has the smallest delay since it is more likely to be more accurate. There is some weighting going on too, so that polls grow "stale" over time by adding a age based correction. But if you get a single poll that has a much shorter round trip time than usual, that same offset may end up being displayed for several poll periods, until it either falls off the end, one with a smaller delay comes along or the correction for its age means that another poll is better.

You need to remember that the output of "ntpq -p" does not represent the clock offsets as it is "now", it represents the clock offset relative to a particular server, as it was calculated and selected at the time of the last poll to that server.


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