Dear Assa,

you need to call prediction with continuous predictions and a _binary_ true class label.

You are the only one who can tell whether the p-values are actually predictions and what the class labels are. For the list readers p is just the name of whatever variable, and you didn't even vaguely say what you try to classify, nor did you offer any explanation of what the columns are.

The only information we get from your table is that p-value has small and continuous values. From what I see the p-values could also be fitting errors of the predictions (e.g. expressed as a probability that the similarity to the predicted class is random).

Claudia

Assa Yeroslaviz wrote:
Dear Claudia,

thank you for your fast answer.
I add again the table of the data as an example.

Protein ID Pfam Domain p-value Expected Is Expected True Postive False Negative False Positive True Negative
NP_000011.2     APH     1.15E-05        APH     TRUE    1       0       0       0
NP_000011.2     MutS_V  0.0173  APH     FALSE   0       0       1       0
NP_000062.1     CBS     9.40E-08        CBS     TRUE    1       0       0       0
NP_000066.1     APH     3.83E-06        APH     TRUE    1       0       0       0
NP_000066.1     CobU    0.009   APH     FALSE   0       0       1       0
NP_000066.1     FeoA    0.3975  APH     FALSE   0       0       1       0
NP_000066.1     Phage_integr_N  0.0219  APH     FALSE   0       0       1       0
NP_000161.2     Beta_elim_lyase         6.25E-12        Beta_elim_lyase         
TRUE    1       0       0       0
NP_000161.2     Glyco_hydro_6   0.002   Beta_elim_lyase         FALSE   0       
0       1       0
NP_000161.2     SurE    0.0059  Beta_elim_lyase         FALSE   0       0       
1       0
NP_000161.2     SapB_2  0.0547  Beta_elim_lyase         FALSE   0       0       
1       0
NP_000161.2     Runt    0.1034  Beta_elim_lyase         FALSE   0       0       
1       0
NP_000204.3     EGF     0.004666118     EGF     TRUE    1       0       0       0
NP_000229.1     PAS     3.13E-06        PAS     TRUE    1       0       0       0
NP_000229.1     zf-CCCH         0.2067  PAS     FALSE   0       1       1       0
NP_000229.1     E_raikovi_mat   0.0206  PAS     FALSE   0       0       0       0
NP_000388.2     NAD_binding_1   8.21E-24        NAD_binding_1   TRUE    1       
0       0       0
NP_000388.2     ABM     1.40E-08        NAD_binding_1   FALSE   0       0       
1       0
NP_000483.3     MMR_HSR1        1.98E-05        MMR_HSR1        TRUE    1       
0       0       0
NP_000483.3     DEAD    2.30E-05        MMR_HSR1        FALSE   0       0       
1       0
NP_000483.3     APS_kinase      1.80E-09        MMR_HSR1        FALSE   0       
0       1       0
NP_000483.3     CbiA    0.0003  MMR_HSR1        FALSE   0       0       1       0
NP_000483.3     CoaE    1.28E-07        MMR_HSR1        FALSE   0       0       
1       0
NP_000483.3     FMN_red         4.61E-08        MMR_HSR1        FALSE   0       
0       1       0
NP_000483.3     Fn_bind         0.3855  MMR_HSR1        FALSE   0       0       
1       0
NP_000483.3     Invas_SpaK      0.2431  MMR_HSR1        FALSE   0       0       
1       0
NP_000483.3     PEP-utilizers   0.127   MMR_HSR1        FALSE   0       0       
1       0
NP_000483.3     NIR_SIR_ferr    0.1661  MMR_HSR1        FALSE   0       0       
1       0
NP_000483.3     AAA     0.0031  MMR_HSR1        FALSE   0       0       1       0
NP_000483.3     DUF448  0.0021  MMR_HSR1        FALSE   0       0       1       0
NP_000483.3     CBF_beta        0.1201  MMR_HSR1        FALSE   0       0       
1       0
NP_000483.3     zf-C3HC4        0.0959  MMR_HSR1        FALSE   0       0       
1       0
NP_000560.5     ig      5.69E-39        ig      TRUE    1       0       0       0
NP_000704.1     Epimerase       4.40E-21        Epimerase       TRUE    1       
0       0       0
NP_000704.1     Lipase_GDSL     6.63E-11        Epimerase       FALSE   0       
0       1       0

...

this is a shorted list from one of the 10 lists I have for different p-values.

As you can see I have separate p-value experiments and probably need to calculate for each of them a separate ROC. But I don't know how to calculate these characteristics for the p-values.
How do I assign the predictions to each of the single p-value experiments?

I would appreciate any help

Thanks
Assa


On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 12:55, Claudia Beleites <cbelei...@units.it <mailto:cbelei...@units.it>> wrote:

    Dear Assa,



        I am having a problem building a ROC curve with my data using
        the ROCR
        package.

        I have 10 lists of proteins such as attached (proteinlist.xls).
        each of the

    your file didn't make it to the list.



        lists was calculated with a different p-value.
        The goal is to find the optimal p-value for the highest number
        of true
        positives as well as lowaest number of false positives.


        As far as I understood the explanations from the vignette of
        ROCR, my data
        of TP and FP are the labels of the prediction function. But I
        don't know how
        to assign the right predictions to these labels.


    I assume the p-values are different cutoffs that you use for
    "hardening" (= making yes/no predictions) from some soft (=
    continuous class membership) output of your classifier.

    Usually, ROCR calculates the curves as function of the
    cutoff/threshold itself from the continuos predictions. If you have
    these soft predictions, let ROCR do the calculation for you.

    If you don't have them, ROCR can calculate your characteristics
    (sens, spec, precision, recall, whatever) for each of the p-values.
    While you could combine the results "by hand" into a
    ROCR-performance object and let ROCR do the plotting, it is then
    probably easier if you plot directly yourself.

    Don't be shy to look into the prediction and performance objects, I
    find them pretty obvious. Maybe start with the objects produced by
    the examples.

    Also, note ROCR works with binary validation data only. If your data
    has more than one class, you need to make two-class-problems first
    (e.g. protein xy ./. not protein xy).



        BTW, Is there a way of finding the optimum in the curve? I mean
        to find the
        exact value in the ROC curve (see sheet 2 in the excel file for
        the ROC
        curve).


    Someone asked for optimum on ROC a couple of months ago, RSiteSearch
    on the mailing list with ROC and optimal or optimum should get you
    answers.



        I would like to thank for any help in advance

    You're welcome.

    Claudia

-- Claudia Beleites
    Dipartimento dei Materiali e delle Risorse Naturali
    Università degli Studi di Trieste
    Via Alfonso Valerio 6/a
    I-34127 Trieste

    phone: +39 0 40 5 58-37 68
    email: cbelei...@units.it <mailto:cbelei...@units.it>




--
Claudia Beleites
Dipartimento dei Materiali e delle Risorse Naturali
Università degli Studi di Trieste
Via Alfonso Valerio 6/a
I-34127 Trieste

phone: +39 0 40 5 58-37 68
email: cbelei...@units.it

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