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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jianling Fan [mailto:fanjianl...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2015 4:46 PM
> To: PIKAL Petr
> Subject: Re: [R] About nls.
>
> Hello, Petr,
>
> Thanks for your help.
> That works but it change my model. And I think that's not the main
> problem.
> from my data, (den1/R1+den2+den3+den4+den5/R5) always <1, which makes
> (1/(den1/R1+den2+den3+den4+den5/R5)-1)>0.

It is not true unless I have different data from yours.

> with(dat,(den1/0.9+den2+den3+den4+den5/23))
 [1]  0.4655556  0.7472222  0.9755556  1.0733333  1.1100000  0.3800000
 [7]  0.4800000  0.8500000  0.8800000  1.0000000  0.4800000  0.8900000
[13]  0.9800000  0.9900000  1.0000000  0.2000000  0.3900000  0.6900000
[19]  0.9900000  1.0000000  6.0652174  9.9065217 13.3434783 16.5782609
[25] 18.8021739 19.8130435

> with(dat,(1/(den1/.9+den2+den3+den4+den5/23)-1)>0)
 [1]  TRUE  TRUE  TRUE FALSE FALSE  TRUE  TRUE  TRUE  TRUE FALSE  TRUE  TRUE
[13]  TRUE  TRUE FALSE  TRUE  TRUE  TRUE  TRUE FALSE FALSE FALSE FALSE FALSE
[25] FALSE FALSE
>

> str(dat)
'data.frame':   26 obs. of  7 variables:
 $ Depth: int  20 40 60 80 100 15 30 45 60 120 ...
 $ lnd  : num  3 3.69 4.09 4.38 4.61 ...
 $ den1 : num  0.419 0.672 0.878 0.966 0.999 ...
 $ den2 : num  0 0 0 0 0 0.38 0.48 0.85 0.88 1 ...
 $ den3 : num  0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 ...
 $ den4 : num  0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 ...
 $ den5 : num  0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 ...
>

> dput(dat)
structure(list(Depth = c(20L, 40L, 60L, 80L, 100L, 15L, 30L,
45L, 60L, 120L, 15L, 30L, 45L, 60L, 120L, 15L, 30L, 45L, 60L,
120L, 10L, 30L, 50L, 70L, 90L, 110L), lnd = c(2.995732, 3.688879,
4.094345, 4.382027, 4.60517, 2.70805, 3.401197, 3.806662, 4.094345,
4.787492, 2.70805, 3.401197, 3.806662, 4.094345, 4.787492, 2.70805,
3.401197, 3.806662, 4.094345, 4.787492, 2.302585, 3.401197, 3.912023,
4.248495, 4.49981, 4.70048), den1 = c(0.419, 0.6725, 0.878, 0.966,
0.999, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
0, 0, 0), den2 = c(0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0.38, 0.48, 0.85, 0.88, 1,
0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0), den3 = c(0,
0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0.48, 0.89, 0.98, 0.99, 1, 0, 0, 0,
0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0), den4 = c(0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0.2, 0.39, 0.69, 0.99, 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0),
    den5 = c(0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
    0, 0, 0, 0, 139.5, 227.85, 306.9, 381.3, 432.45, 455.7)), .Names = 
c("Depth",
"lnd", "den1", "den2", "den3", "den4", "den5"), class = "data.frame", row.names 
= c("1",
"2", "3", "4", "5", "6", "7", "8", "9", "10", "11", "12", "13",
"14", "15", "16", "17", "18", "19", "20", "21", "22", "23", "24",
"25", "26"))
>

You can check if this is the same as you have. That is why it is preferable to 
use dput for sending data.

Cheers
Petr


> So, the nls should work in this case. But I don't know why it does not.
>
> Thanks!
>
>  Regards,
>
> Julian
>
>
>
> On 31 July 2015 at 00:54, PIKAL Petr <petr.pi...@precheza.cz> wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > I am not an expert but the problem seems to me that
> >
> > (den1/R1+den2+den3+den4+den5/R5)-1
> >
> > gives you sometimes value 0 and sometimes negative. In these cases
> the value of log(1/result) is NA or Inf and nls can not handle this.
> >
> > I do not search vhere is nls2 from so I used nls and removed -1 form
> your formula, which resulted to some final values.
> >
> >> fit1<-nls(lnd~log(1/(den1/R1+den2+den3+den4+den5/R5))/c+log(d50),
> > + start=c(R1=0.9, R5=23, c=-1.1, d50=10), data=test)
> >>
> >> coef(fit)
> >          A          B
> >  6.9720965 -0.0272203
> >> coef(fit1)
> >          R1          R5           c         d50
> >   0.9622249 416.1272498  -0.7178156  73.6017161
> >>
> > Cheers
> > Petr
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: R-help [mailto:r-help-boun...@r-project.org] On Behalf Of
> >> Jianling Fan
> >> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 9:51 PM
> >> To: r-help@r-project.org
> >> Subject: [R] About nls.
> >>
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> I am trying to do a nls regression with R.  but I always get a error
> >> as "Error in numericDeriv(form[[3L]], names(ind), env) :  Missing
> >> value or an infinity produced when evaluating the model".  I googled
> >> it and found someone said it is because of the improper start value.
> >> I tried many times but can not solve it. Does anyone can help me?
> >>
> >> thanks a lot !
> >>
> >> my code is:
> >>
> >> fit1<-nls2(lnd~log(1/(den1/R1+den2+den3+den4+den5/R5)-1)/c+log(d50),
> >>               start=c(R1=0.9, R5=23, c=-1.1, d50=10), data=SWrt)
> >>
> >> data (SWrt) is:
> >>
> >>   Depth      lnd   den1 den2 den3 den4   den5
> >> 1     20 2.995732 0.4190 0.00 0.00 0.00   0.00
> >> 2     40 3.688879 0.6725 0.00 0.00 0.00   0.00
> >> 3     60 4.094345 0.8780 0.00 0.00 0.00   0.00
> >> 4     80 4.382027 0.9660 0.00 0.00 0.00   0.00
> >> 5    100 4.605170 0.9990 0.00 0.00 0.00   0.00
> >> 6     15 2.708050 0.0000 0.38 0.00 0.00   0.00
> >> 7     30 3.401197 0.0000 0.48 0.00 0.00   0.00
> >> 8     45 3.806662 0.0000 0.85 0.00 0.00   0.00
> >> 9     60 4.094345 0.0000 0.88 0.00 0.00   0.00
> >> 10   120 4.787492 0.0000 1.00 0.00 0.00   0.00
> >> 11    15 2.708050 0.0000 0.00 0.48 0.00   0.00
> >> 12    30 3.401197 0.0000 0.00 0.89 0.00   0.00
> >> 13    45 3.806662 0.0000 0.00 0.98 0.00   0.00
> >> 14    60 4.094345 0.0000 0.00 0.99 0.00   0.00
> >> 15   120 4.787492 0.0000 0.00 1.00 0.00   0.00
> >> 16    15 2.708050 0.0000 0.00 0.00 0.20   0.00
> >> 17    30 3.401197 0.0000 0.00 0.00 0.39   0.00
> >> 18    45 3.806662 0.0000 0.00 0.00 0.69   0.00
> >> 19    60 4.094345 0.0000 0.00 0.00 0.99   0.00
> >> 20   120 4.787492 0.0000 0.00 0.00 1.00   0.00
> >> 21    10 2.302585 0.0000 0.00 0.00 0.00 139.50
> >> 22    30 3.401197 0.0000 0.00 0.00 0.00 227.85
> >> 23    50 3.912023 0.0000 0.00 0.00 0.00 306.90
> >> 24    70 4.248495 0.0000 0.00 0.00 0.00 381.30
> >> 25    90 4.499810 0.0000 0.00 0.00 0.00 432.45
> >> 26   110 4.700480 0.0000 0.00 0.00 0.00 455.70
> >>
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