I think you should ask more from the BioC folks, or do more digging yourself. At a minimum we would need to know what arguments were used in the call that failed before we could help you with this. So if this ever happens again, here's what you can do:

Run debug(install.packages), then the call to BiocManager::install. It will break to the debugger when install.packages is called. It will print the whole source of install.packages which is quite long, but at the very top it will show something like

  debugging in: install.packages(pkgs = x)

The "install.packages(pkgs = x)" will be the call from whatever function calls install.packages. The arguments shown may be constants or variables like x; the argument names may or may not be shown, depending on the Bioconductor code. If they are variables, they are in the scope of the caller, not install.packages, whereas the argument name "pkgs" would be in scope and you could print it. Record all the arguments that were passed, then quit using Q.

Now run undebug(install.packages), and re-run the install.packages() call from the command line, substituting the variables you recorded. If that shows the same problems as when called from BiocManager::install, show us the log of what happened. If not, it's a Bioconductor issue.

Duncan Murdoch

On 13/02/2024 5:07 a.m., gernop...@gmx.net wrote:
Yes you're right that it started as an Bioconductor issue. The reason I am writing it here, if because of one of the core members of the Bioconductor project stated this: "(...) But anyway, it's almost certainly an install.packages issue rather than BiocManager::install, so you might check over at r-help@r-project.org." It's hard to give an explicit example here since it's always a bit time dependent, when and if this happens. And "unfortunately", right now all packages can be updated, but I'll come back to this as soon as I experience it again. It's more of a general feature request then a help request, but as you say "In my experience update.packages() asks whether you want the source or binary install and respects your choice." However, at least for me, it does not do this anymore, but simply silently fails to update those packages. The Bioconductor thread is the most informative for this (https://support.bioconductor.org/p/9156283 <https://support.bioconductor.org/p/9156283/#9156308>) in case anyone wants to check the situation in more detail.
Philipp
*Gesendet:* Dienstag, 13. Februar 2024 um 10:53 Uhr
*Von:* "Duncan Murdoch" <murdoch.dun...@gmail.com>
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*Betreff:* [R] Packages sometimes don't update, but no error or warning is thrown

Those three references are about RStudio and Bioconductor (or at least
they start out that way, I didn't read through the long threads).
Neither of those is relevant here, but from my quick scan it appears the
issue is that those systems detect a package in source form is
available, then install an older binary instead.

If you have an example where update.packages() does this, that would be
on topic on this list. Please post just that here: your calls, and all
the output you received. In my experience update.packages() asks
whether you want the source or binary install and respects your choice.

Duncan Murdoch

On 13/02/2024 3:59 a.m., gernophil--- via R-help wrote:
 > Hey everyone,
 >
> this question is related to this (https://community.rstudio.com/t/packages-are-not-updating/166214/3 <https://community.rstudio.com/t/packages-are-not-updating/166214/3>), this (https://www.biostars.org/p/9586316/#9586323 <https://www.biostars.org/p/9586316/#9586323>) and this (https://support.bioconductor.org/p/9156283/#9156308 <https://support.bioconductor.org/p/9156283/#9156308>). The two latter ones are pots from myself.
 >
> To sum it up: If I am updating packages (be it via Bioconductor or CRAN) some packages simply don’t update, but they also don’t throw any warning or error that they have not been updated. The reason behind this is most likely that there is an update, but it’s not yet available as a binary – in my case as a "mac.binary.big-sur-arm64", since I am on Apple Silicon. My pkgType is set to "both" (default), but my .Platform$pkgType is "mac.binary.big-sur-arm64" (also default).
 >
> If the system shows an update is available and I click update (or update via install.packages()), but the package will not be updated, I would expect any kind of message that the package will not be updated, since no newer binary is available or a prompt, if I want to compile from source. However, the only message I get is:
 > ```
 > trying URL '<url_to_package>'
 > Content type 'application/x-gzip' length XXXXXXX bytes (X.X MB)
 > ==================================================
 > downloaded X.X MB
 >
 >
 > The downloaded binary packages are in
 >                 /var/folders/ws/XXX/T//YYY/downloaded_packages
 > ```
> To see, if the package was actually updated, I have to check for updates again (or check the version of the installed package). Is this the expected behavior and if so, why? (Also, why is there a double slash in the path to the downloaded packages?)
 >
 > Thanks for your help.
 >
 > Best,
 > Philipp
 >
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