I have a question about what you've wrote in your pdf file. Why must we view
my problem in the viewpoint of hypothesis testing? Is testing the original
philosophy of maximizing Fisher's A-statistic to choose a optimum model?

Thanks.


2007/5/21, Lucke, Joseph F <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>  I taken the conversation offline and used a pdf file to better display
> equations.
>
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> *From:* Àî¿¡½Ü [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Monday, May 21, 2007 10:14 AM
> *To:* Lucke, Joseph F
> *Cc:* r-help@stat.math.ethz.ch
> *Subject:* Re: [R] How to compare linear models with intercept and those
> withoutintercept using minimizing adjs R^2 strategy
>
>
>
>
> 2007/5/21, Lucke, Joseph F <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > One issue is whether you want your estimators to be based on central
> > moments (covariances) or on non-central moments.  Removing the intercept
> >
> > changes the statistics from central to non-central moments.  The
> > adjusted R2, by which I think you mean Fisher's adjusted R2, is based on
> > central moments (ratio of unbiased estimators of variances---central
> > moments).  So if you remove the intercept, you must re-derive the
> > adjusted R2 for non-central moments --- you can't just plug in the
> > number of independent variables as zero.
>
>
> I have consulted A.J. Miller's Subset Selection in Regression(1990), and I
> found what I was talking about adjusted R^2 was exactly as you
> said--Fisher's A-statisitc. The formula of adjusted R^2 without the
> intercept in that book was also the same as what summary(lm)$adj.r.squared
> does in R. I guess what you want me to derive is the formula in that book.
>
> Though I know the formula of adjusted R2 for non-central moments, I still
> want to know whether I am in the right way to compare *linear models with
> intercept and those without intercept using maximizing adjs R^2 strategy.
> *
> **
>  Actually, I consider the left column consisted of all 1 in predictor
> matrix Z as the intercept term. Then I apply maximizing adjs R^2 strategy
> to decide which variables to select. Z is the term in the model: Y=Zb+e.
>
> Thanks for your suggestion, and I am looking forward for your reply.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ???
> > Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 8:53 PM
> > To: r-help@stat.math.ethz.ch
> > Subject: [R] How to compare linear models with intercept and those
> > withoutintercept using minimizing adjs R^2 strategy
> >
> > Dear R-list,
> >
> > I apologize for my many emails but I think I know how to desctribe my
> > problem differently and more clearly.
> >
> > My question is how to compare linear models with intercept and those
> > without intercept using maximizing adjusted R^2 strategy.
> >
> > Now I do it like the following:
> >
> > > library(leaps)
> > > n=20
> > > x=matrix(rnorm(n*3),ncol=3)
> > > b=c(1,2,0)
> > > intercept=1
> > > y=x%*%b+rnorm(n,0,1)+intercept
> > >
> > > var.selection=leaps(cbind(rep(1,n),x),y,int=F,method="adjr2")
> > > ##### Choose the model with maximum adjr2
> > > var.selection$which[var.selection$adjr2==max(var.selection$adjr2),]
> >    1     2     3     4
> > TRUE  TRUE  TRUE FALSE
> >
> >
> > Actually, I use the definition of R-square in which the model is without
> >
> > a intercept term.
> >
> > Is what I am doing is correct?
> >
> > Thanks for any suggestion or correction.
> > --
> > Junjie Li,                  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Undergranduate in DEP of Tsinghua University,
> >
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>
> --
> Junjie Li,                  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Undergranduate in DEP of Tsinghua University,
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