One thing to note here: it's now not possible to _request_ to join the list. If someone wants to join the list, they have to know someone who is already a member and ask them to join.
It looks like another option is "Anyone on the web can ask" to join. It's not immediately clear who gets the emails when people ask, but this seems like it might be a good intermediate position. Sam On Sun, Dec 19, 2021 at 12:32 PM Sage Gerard <s...@sagegerard.com> wrote: > > Alright, thanks to all of you for the quick replies. As of this writing, the > list has been reconfigured to create an explicit perimeter between the > non-members and members. The public can no longer let themselves in. > > Not totally out of the woods yet. > > Someone please confirm if you can invite others using Members page -> "Add > Member". If not, then please follow up with me. > This model can be compromised by someone going rogue and inviting a bunch of > spammers. I'm expecting that our communal trust is high enough to make this > unlikely. > > Considering the risk profile seems less scary, disregard request to delete my > emails. :) > > On 12/18/21 3:02 PM, Matthias Felleisen wrote: > > > +2! And many thanks. (I was personally spared this spam until very recently. > No clue why) > > — Matthias > > > > > On Dec 18, 2021, at 2:55 PM, Robby Findler <ro...@cs.northwestern.edu> wrote: > > +1! Thank you. > > Robby > > On Sat, Dec 18, 2021 at 1:43 PM Matthew Flatt <mfl...@cs.utah.edu> wrote: >> >> The "members" option sounds right to me. Thanks for tracking down a way >> to improve the situation! >> >> At Sat, 18 Dec 2021 19:35:23 +0000, Sage Gerard wrote: >> > Core team, >> > >> > Sam asked me to issue bans for a troublesome spammer. I've done so, even >> > just today. I understand I need quorum for larger decisions. This is why >> > I have not yet reconfigured the list to permanently stop the spammer. >> > After researching the problem further, I need your urgent attention. >> > >> > I found that the spam messages sometimes link to other Google group >> > posts affected by the spammer. A recent trail leads to a >> > comp.lang.python Google message in 2017. I suspect that email addresses >> > are scraped in unmoderated lists that freely hand out membership. After >> > checking the list settings, I found that this is one of those lists. I >> > hypothesize that our email addresses are being scraped and >> > cross-referenced for use in other unmoderated lists. >> > >> > It's one thing to flatly complain about a spammer on this list, and >> > another to willingly maintain a transmission vector. We need to stop >> > automatically handing out group membership with our current settings. We >> > can have ________ issue list memberships. I need you all to fill in the >> > blank with "moderators" or "members." I'll translate the settings >> > accordingly. >> > >> > Given the holidays, I respect your time. Please reciprocate with respect >> > for the urgency this problem creates. I will revoke my own mailing list >> > privileges and membership in three weeks, on January 8th, 2022. I will >> > leave the settings however they read at the time to prevent >> > interruption, and request that own messages then be deleted to limit the >> > role my email address plays for the spammer. >> > >> > I am not volunteering to moderate membership applications, and I am not >> > commenting on how to verify the impact of possible email leaks. Between >> > the Discourse move and (majority?) perspective towards email, I'm not >> > sure how I would be useful doing either. 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