Hi John When I'm cataloguing, the fact that the document is a PDF file shows in the 300 field, but not in the 336 or 337 field. Perhaps that would be adequate and it is pointless repeating the information. This is how I'm doing it currently:
336 (a) text (b) txt ($2) rdacontent 337 (a) computer (b) c ($2) rdamedia 338 (a) online resource (b) cr ($2) rdacarrier So I guess it would be redundant to do the following as well: 347 (a) text file (b) PDF (c) 2.56 MB ($2) rda I understand your point about text file being misleading/incorrect in 347 (a). Thanks. Kyley From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of John Hostage Sent: Thursday, 23 May 2013 11:23 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Size of PDF files Kyley, I'm saying that it's not necessary to give a file type as defined in RDA at all. For one thing, Digital file characteristic is not a core element. For another, the file types given in 3.19.2.3 consist of information that's already found in the content type and media type, and the terms are misleading. I'm no expert, but I doubt the types are a useful categorization. A PDF file is not a text file. If you had to characterize it, you might call it a document file. John ------------------------------------------ John Hostage Authorities and Database Integrity Librarian Harvard Library--Information and Technical Services Langdell Hall 194 Harvard Law School Library Cambridge, MA 02138 host...@law.harvard.edu<mailto:host...@law.harvard.edu> +(1)(617) 495-3974 (voice) +(1)(617) 496-4409 (fax) ________________________________ From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] on behalf of Felix, Kyley [kfe...@parliament.wa.gov.au] Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 21:29 To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA<mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA> Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Size of PDF files John, Are you saying it's not necessary to put the 347 field in at all, or that the 347 (a) field should not be text file? What should it be? Many thanks, Kyley Kyley Felix Librarian Parliamentary Library Parliament House Harvest Tce Perth WA 6000 Phone: (08) 9222 7393 From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of John Hostage Sent: Wednesday, 22 May 2013 9:39 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA<mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA> Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Size of PDF files The file types in RDA 3.19.2 do not convey anything that is not already conveyed by content type and media type, so there is no need for this element to be in RDA. In any event, a PDF file is not a text file as the term is commonly understood (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Text_file) ------------------------------------------ John Hostage Authorities and Database Integrity Librarian // Harvard Library--Information and Technical Services // Langdell Hall 194 // Cambridge, MA 02138 host...@law.harvard.edu<mailto:host...@law.harvard.edu> +(1)(617) 495-3974 (voice) +(1)(617) 496-4409 (fax) From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Felix, Kyley Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 23:13 To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA<mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA> Subject: [RDA-L] Size of PDF files I'm cataloguing a lot of PDF files in my library. I want to make it easy for users to see the size of the documents. This is what I am thinking of doing in the 300 and 347 fields. The 347 field is hidden from the user so I want the file size also showing in the 300 field. I wasn't sure if this is the best way to do it. Also not sure whether the file size should be within the brackets with the extent? I'm unable to find examples where both the number of pages and the file size are used. 300 (10 a) 1 online resource (v, 23 pages), 840 KB : (20 b) text file, PDF. 347 (10 a) text file (20 b) PDF (30 c) 840 KB Your thoughts would be appreciated. Kyley Felix Librarian Parliamentary Library Parliament House Harvest Tce Perth WA 6000 Phone: (08) 9222 7393 --------------------------------------------------------------------- PARLIAMENT OF WESTERN AUSTRALIA CONDITIONS OF USE, PUBLICATION, OR DISCLOSURE OF THIS EMAIL APPLICABLE TO RECIPIENT The content of this email (including any attachments) - is provided for the use of the intended recipient only; and - mere receipt in no way authorises any recipient to disclose or publish all or part of it to another person or in any form. 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