Hi all,

Thanks for all your replies. I wonder what kind of logic may be put in
place to fix these mistakes algorithmically. Any ways to configure the
correct stereochemistry before embedding the structure?

Thanks,

On Thu, 19 Jan 2023 at 17:49, Giovanni Tricarico <
giovanni.tricar...@glpg.com> wrote:

> Indeed, the only two chemically valid configurations for this molecule
> seem to be:
>
>
>
>
>
> Impressive that rdkit can detect this kind of contradictions.
>
>
>
> G
>
>
>
> *From:* Kangway Chuang (CHUANGK4) via Rdkit-discuss <
> rdkit-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net>
> *Sent:* 19 January 2023 17:54
> *To:* Ling Chan <lingtrek...@gmail.com>; Gianmarco Ghiandoni <
> ghiandon...@gmail.com>
> *Cc:* RDKit <rdkit-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Rdkit-discuss] Embedding of molecules with incorrect
> stereochistry assignment
>
>
>
> Agree with Hao above. For the molecules provided, the second example is
> geometrically inaccessible given the stereochemical constraints. In this
> case, the expected behavior should be an unsuccessful embedding.
>
>
>
> Kangway
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 8:49 AM Ling Chan <lingtrek...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Keep trying with more random seeds?
>
>
>
> On Thu., Jan. 19, 2023, 07:38 Hao, <shenha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Gianmarco,
>
>
>
> In my experience, this just means that you have an impossible molecule. I
> haven't found any ways around it besides trying to embed. If it fails, try
> to swap the other stereoisomer. I find this particularly prevalent in large
> scale datasets where data quality is not very good.
>
>
>
> Best,
>
> Hao
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 7:09 AM Gianmarco Ghiandoni <ghiandon...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> Anyone can help with this matter?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> On Tue, 17 Jan 2023 at 13:03, Gianmarco Ghiandoni <ghiandon...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> I have come across an issue while embedding structures with
> stereochemistry configurations that presumably lead to clashes between
> atoms:
>
>
>
> from rdkit import Chem
>
> from rdkit.Chem import AllChem
>
>
>
> smiles="C1N[C@@H]2CO[C@H]1C2"
>
> m = Chem.MolFromSmiles(smiles)
>
> mh = Chem.AddHs(m)
>
> print(AllChem.EmbedMolecule(mh, randomSeed=11))
>
>
>
> smiles="C1N[C@@H]2CO[C@@H]1C2"
>
> m = Chem.MolFromSmiles(smiles)
>
> mh = Chem.AddHs(m)
>
> print(AllChem.EmbedMolecule(mh, randomSeed=11))
>
>
>
>
>
> Produces:
>
> 0 (successful embedding)
> -1  (unsuccessful embedding)
>
>
>
> What is in your opinion the best way to deal with this in order to avoid
> failures?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
>
> *Gianmarco*
>
>
>
>
> --
>
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