Hi Mario,

I see that the new text is "References are not limited only to RFCs but can 
also locate document published outside of the RFC path, including informal 
documentation." For IANA's purposes, this sentence isn't necessary, as the 
Specification Required policy was specifically meant to encompass non-RFC 
documentation (see Section 4 of RFC 8126 for registration procedure 
definitions), but no problem at all with including it.

Thanks,
Amanda

On 8/24/23, 9:18 AM, "iesg on behalf of Mario Loffredo" <iesg-boun...@ietf.org 
on behalf of mario.loffr...@iit.cnr.it> wrote:

    Hi Amanda,


    Il 23/08/2023 19:51, Amanda Baber ha scritto:
    > Regarding the use of a brief description in the registry itself as the 
"Specification" in "Specification Required": I missed it this time, but we ran 
into this same question with draft-ietf-calext-jscalendar-21, and FWIW, Barry 
Leiba recommended to the author that the registration procedure be changed to 
Expert Review.

    Please see my response to Robert Wilton's remarks.

    Think that changing the text as I proposed could solve the problem.

    I'm sure that Andy and Scott as DEs would like to receive a 
    specification supporting a request for the registration of new reverse 
    search properties or new mappings.

    Therefore, I would like to make the IANA Considerations section 
    compliant to the Specification Required policy.


    Best,

    Mario

    >
    > Thanks,
    > Amanda
    >
    > On 8/23/23, 6:07 AM, "iesg on behalf of Robert Wilton via Datatracker" 
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    >
    >      Robert Wilton has entered the following ballot position for
    >      draft-ietf-regext-rdap-reverse-search-24: Discuss
    >
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    >      email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut 
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    >      introductory paragraph, however.)
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    >
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    >      The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here:
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    >
    >      
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    >      DISCUSS:
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    >
    >
    >
    >      Hi,
    >
    >      Flagging part of the IANA considerations as a DISCUSS, but I think 
that this
    >      should be easy to resolve:
    >
    >      (1) p 11, sec 12.2.1.  Creation of the RDAP Reverse Search Registries
    >
    >         These registries follow the Specification Required process as 
defined
    >         in Section 4.5 of [RFC8126].
    >
    >         The designated expert should prevent collisions and confirm that
    >         suitable documentation, as described in Section 4.6 of [RFC8126], 
is
    >         available to ensure interoperability.  References are not limited
    >         only to RFCs and simple definitions could be described in the
    >         registries themselves.
    >
    >      I'm not sure that "simple definitions could be described in the 
registries
    >      themselves" is consistent with the "Specification Required" policy 
chosen above.
    >
    >
    >      
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    >      COMMENT:
    >      
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    >
    >      [I support John's discuss on normative references.]
    >
    >      I also have some other comments that you may wish to consider:
    >
    >      (2) p 14, sec 12.2.4.2.  Initial Content
    >
    >            +==========+==================================================+
    >            | Property | Property Path                                    |
    >            +==========+==================================================+
    >            | fn       | $.entities[*].vcardArray[1][?(@[0]=='fn')][3]    |
    >            +----------+--------------------------------------------------+
    >            | handle   | $.entities[*].handle                             |
    >            +----------+--------------------------------------------------+
    >            | email    | $.entities[*].vcardArray[1][?(@[0]=='email')][3] |
    >            +----------+--------------------------------------------------+
    >            | role     | $.entities[*].roles                              |
    >            +----------+--------------------------------------------------+
    >
    >      Would it be helpful for this table to include the "Description" and 
"Reference"
    >      properties?
    >
    >      Minor level comments:
    >
    >      (3) p 3, sec 1.  Introduction
    >
    >         The protocol described in this specification aims to extend the 
RDAP
    >         query capabilities and response to enable reverse search based on 
the
    >         relationships defined in RDAP between an object class for search 
and
    >         a related object class.  The reverse search based on the domain-
    >         entity relationship is treated as a particular case of such a 
generic
    >         model.
    >
    >      This introduction text seems to immediately jump into a defense as 
to why it is
    >      okay to standardize this functionality in an RDAP extension.  This 
is okay, but
    >      I wonder whether it wouldn't be better if the introduction only 
included the
    >      last paragraph (i.e., that is stating what extension is defined in 
this
    >      document), and the rest of the text was moved into a "Background" 
subsection of
    >      the introduction.
    >
    >      (4) p 7, sec 8.  Reverse Searches Based on Entity Details
    >
    >         Reverse search property:  fn
    >         RDAP member path:  $.entities[*].vcardArray[1][?(@[0]=='fn')][3]
    >         Reference:  Section 6.2.1 of [RFC6350]
    >
    >      A minor issue, but it wasn't immediately obvious to me what 'fn' is 
- I
    >      initially presumed that it meant function, so I was wondering if 
some more text
    >      would be helpful here, and/or perhaps in the IANA registry that you 
are
    >      creating.
    >
    >      Regards,
    >      Rob
    >
    >
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