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    I continue to think that conducting a marriage ceremony, religious or secular, is constitutionally protected free speech (so long as there is no risk of fraud, which is to say that it's clear to everyone involved, and to those who are likely to hear of the marriage, that the marriage is not legally recognized).  It is simply speech, with no noncommunicative impacts that may warrant regulation.
 
    While agreements to commit crimes or possibly even to engage in other constitutionally unprotected conduct might be punishable as conspiracy (though the precise theory of that is unclear), I don't see how an agreement to love, honor, and cherish -- and, even if it implicitly includes having sex, to have constitutionally protected sex -- would fit within any such exception, any more than an agreement to spread ideas.  Perhaps a marriage ceremony between people who lack the constitutional right to have sex, for instance when one party is a minor, or possibly if the parties are too closely related or one of the parties is still married to someone else, might be seen as somehow aiding and abetting a crime, though I'm skeptical of that.  But absent those factors, the marriage ceremony strikes me as pure speech that can't be treated as a criminal conspiracy.
 
    This is so even if there is no constitutional right to *marry* members of the same sex (and I think there isn't).  The state has no obligation to recognize the marriage.  But it seems to me that the simple conduct of a verbal ceremony can't be outlawed, any more than the conduct of a verbal ceremony in which people pledge to convey Socialist ideas.
 
    Thus, the right flows from the Free Speech Clause, and is applicable to the religious and nonreligious alike -- a more appealing result, it seems to me, than a Free Exercise Clause right which would protect religious marriage ceremonies but not secular ones.
 
    Eugene
 
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Subject: Rights of clergy regarding same-sex marriage? -- a free exercise right?

I wonder if the reverse argument has more power.  That is:  if a church declares that the sacrament of marriage is available to *any* couple willing to accept it, does the minister of that church have a free exercise right *to perform* that marriage ceremony?  
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Ed Darrell wrote:
The right to marry doesn't include the right to a church wedding.  Pastors, rabbis and other religious leaders who may perform marriages now have relatively wide latitude to say for whom they will or won't perform the ceremony.
 
The couple may get married in a civil ceremony at the courthouse, or with another official presiding at some other location.  Traditionally, in the U.S. the problem has not been finding people to perform marriages, but rather to find people who won't perform them when they shouldn't be performed -- underage kids, for example.  This latitute allowed to the marriage solemnizers allows marriage performers to use many different reasons to refuse to perform any particular marriage, even unsavory and against-public-policy reasons.
 
Ed Darrell
Dallas
 


Jean Dudley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I'm of the mind that the recent decision from Judge Robert Kramer in
California regarding gay marriage in that state is another step in the
march towards the eventual breaking down of the societal prohibition on
same-sex marriage. One of the arguments I've heard against it is that
the "guvmint" will force religious leaders to perform same-sex
marriages against their conscience. How real is this argument? Are
clergy "forced" to marry mixed-race couples against their will?
--
Edie
"A man without doubts is a monster"
--Garrison Keillor

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