Actually, Ed was just joking. Sorry, sometimes I can't resist a little sarcasm. I gave a speech last weekend at a conference defending the ACLU against the common accusation that they are out to "destroy Christianity" or "drive religion from the public square." Included in that speech were many of the cases that Allen Asch cites on his webpage.
Ed Brayton From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu [mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Paul Finkelman Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 4:02 PM To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: RE: ACLU of NJ Fights For Christian Inmate's Right to Preach I assume Ed is referring t the Pentacostal minister? ---- Paul Finkelman President William McKinley Distinguished Professor of Law Albany Law School 80 New Scotland Avenue Albany, NY 12208 518-445-3386 (p) 518-445-3363 (f) pf...@albanylaw.edu www.paulfinkelman.com --- On Mon, 12/15/08, Will Linden <wlin...@panix.com> wrote: From: Will Linden <wlin...@panix.com> Subject: RE: ACLU of NJ Fights For Christian Inmate's Right to Preach To: "Law & Religion issues for Law Academics" <religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu>, paul.finkel...@yahoo.com Date: Monday, December 15, 2008, 3:44 PM Thank you for this comprehensive and sophisticated rebuttal. At 02:48 PM 12/15/08 -0500, you wrote: >Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0105_01C95EC4.25DEF720" >Content-Language: en-us > >Bloody communists out to destroy Christianity in America! > > > >Ed Brayton > > > >From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu >[mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of aa...@aol.com >Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 6:48 PM >To: religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu >Subject: ACLU of NJ Fights For Christian Inmate's Right to Preach > > > >FYI, the latest addition to my website: ><http://aclufightsforchristians.com>ACLU Fights for Christians > > > >Allen Asch > > > >Release taken from ><http://www.aclu-nj.org/news/acluprotectsprisonersrelig.htm>http://www.aclu -nj.org/news/acluprotectsprisonersrelig.htm > > > >ACLU Protects Prisoner's Religious Liberty > >For Immediate Release > >December 3, 2008 > >State Prison Officials Prevent Ordained Pentecostal Minister from Preaching > >TRENTON, NJ - The American Civil Liberties Union and the ACLU of New >Jersey today filed a federal lawsuit on behalf of a New Jersey prisoner, >an ordained Pentecostal minister, who is asking the state to respect his >religious freedom by restoring his right to preach. > >Howard Thompson Jr. had preached at weekly worship services at the New >Jersey State Prison (NJSP) for more than a decade when prison officials >last year issued, without any reason, a blanket ban on all preaching by >inmates, even when done under the direct supervision of prison staff. > >"Ours is a country where people are free to express their religious >viewpoints without having to fear repercussions," said Edward Barocas, >Legal Director of the ACLU of New Jersey. "The New Jersey State Prison may >not deny its prisoners their most basic constitutional rights." > >Since he entered NJSP in 1986, Thompson has been an active member of the >prison's Christian community, participating in and preaching at Sunday >services and other religious events, teaching Bible study classes and >founding the choir. His preaching has never caused any security incidents, >and the prison's chaplaincy staff has actively supported Thompson and >encouraged him to spread his deeply held message of faith. > >But in June 2007, prison officials banned all prisoners from engaging in >preaching of any kind, without any warning or justification -- which they >still have not given. > >"I have a religious calling to minister to my fellow inmates, and I've >done so honestly, effectively and without incident for years," Thompson >said. "All I want is to have my religious liberty restored and to be able >to continue working with men who want to renew their lives through the >study and practice of their faith." > >According to the lawsuit, which names NJSP Administrator Michelle R. Ricci >and New Jersey Department of Corrections Commissioner George W. Hayman as >defendants, Thompson first preached a service at NJSP over a decade ago, >when he relieved the former Protestant chaplain, who had been unable to >lead a scheduled service due to illness. > >During the next decade, before he was ordained as a Pentecostal minister, >Thompson periodically preached at Sunday services, taught Bible study >classes and participated in and led the prison choir he founded. During >these years, Thompson received his call to ordained ministry and to >preaching and leading others in worship, study, and prayer. > >"Prisoners do not forfeit their fundamental right to religious liberty at >the prison gate," said Daniel Mach, Director of Litigation for the ACLU >Program on Freedom of Religion and Belief. "The prison's absolute ban on >inmate preaching clearly violates the law and Mr. Thompson's right to >practice his faith." > >Thompson, ordained in October 2000 during a service at NJSP overseen by >the prison's chaplain, sincerely believes it is his religious calling and >obligation to preach his Pentecostal faith and is willing to do so under >the full supervision of NJSP staff. > >This lawsuit is the latest in a long line of ACLU cases defending the >fundamental right to religious exercise, a complete ><http://www.aclu-nj.org/news/www.aclu.org/defendingreligion.htm>list of >which is available online. > >In 2007, the ACLU of Rhode Island prevailed in a lawsuit challenging a >similar restriction on prisoner preaching, successfully overturning a >statewide ban and restoring the plaintiff prisoner's right to preach >during weekly Christian services. > >Read Howard Thompson's ><http://www.aclu-nj.org/news/www.aclu.org/prison/restrict/37953lgl20081120. html.htm>complaint >and ><http://www.aclu-nj.org/news/www.aclu.org/prison/restrict/37954lgl20081203. html.htm>preliminary >injunction brief online. > >Learn about the ><http://www.aclu-nj.org/news/www.aclu.org/religion.htm>ACLU Program on the >Freedom of Religion and Belief and the ><http://www.aclu-nj.org/news/www.aclu-nj.org.htm>ACLU-NJ online. > > > > >---------- >Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in >one place. ><http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom0000 0010>Try >it now. >_______________________________________________ >To post, send message to Religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu >To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see >http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/religionlaw > >Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as >private. 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