There are elaborate rules of jewish law on the subject of self defense. 
Basically unlike American. Law they put a premium on the life of the person 
attacked with doubts resolved in his or her favor even at the expense of the 
attacker's life. There are obviously different rules when a lesser response 
will suffice. .this hard line attitude helps explain why many israelis reject 
ihl insistence that doubts about the availability of a self defense claim be 
resolved against the claim. I will try to find a written summary
Marc stern

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        Very interesting, thanks very much!

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> boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Perry Dane
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> 
> Eugene,
> 
>          I can't, offhand, help you with precise theological sources,
> but you might be interested in an internal debate that occurred at
> Calvin College, the very intellectually and religiously serious Dutch
> Reformed college in Michigan, when the school administration decided
> (after the Virginia Tech tragedy) to issue guns to some members of
> the college security force.  A group of students got very upset over
> the decision, claiming it was unchristian, and the administration
> produced a "Theological Explanation for the Use of Force Policy."
> 
>          For some account, see, e.g.
> 
> http://www.calvin.edu/news/2007-08/use-of-force.htm
> 
> http://www.crcna.org/news.cfm?newsid=530
> 
> http://clubs.calvin.edu/chimes/article.php?id=3713
> 
>
http://blog.mlive.com/grpress/2008/05/calvin_board_oks_gun_policy_fo.htm
l
> 
> I haven't been able to find the explanation theological document that
> the college administration drafted in defense of its policy.
> 
>          Hope this helps.
> 
>                          Perry
> 
> 
> Eugene Volokh wrote:
> >     I'm looking for good sources that discuss religious attitudes
> >towards self-defense or defense of others, deadly and otherwise; in
> >particular, I'm looking to see whether there are religious groups
that
> >(1) take the view that deadly force is always bad, even in
self-defense
> >or defense of others, but nondeadly force (including pepper spray,
stun
> >guns, and other devices that are extremely unlikely to kill) is
> >permissible, or (2) take the view that given the choice between
> >nondeadly force and deadly force, one should always use nondeadly
force,
> >unless the nondeadly force is very likely to fail (e.g., all one has
for
> >nondeadly force is fists vs. an attacker's knife).
> 
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