Eugene:

Here is a partial answer to your question.

I think that the legislation and jurisprudence on parental custody - that wives 
would have primary custody of children after a divorce -- contrary to the old 
English rule -- developed shortly after the development of married women's 
property statutes.  

The movement for protective labor legislation -- that was successful in Mueller 
v. Oregon was tied to the movement against child labor and in many states these 
child labor statutes were easily passed.  Hammer v. Daggenhart struck down a 
federal law limiting child labor, but by then there were a significant number 
of states that had prohibited some form of child labor at the state level and 
all these laws (as far as I know), like the law in Mueller, survived 
challenges. The law in Hammer did not survive because it was based on the US 
Constitution.  It is worth remembering that the Constitutional Amendment to ban 
child labor had enormous support that was probably tied to women voting, but 
maybe some politial scientist out there has some number to help us out.

I think you can also track mandatory school attendance to the agitation by 
women and the rise of political activity by women even before universal 
suffrage for women. I do not know the status of the protection of children in 
the early states that allowed women to vote but perhaps someone can tell us 
about this.



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--- On Tue, 8/4/09, Volokh, Eugene <vol...@law.ucla.edu> wrote:

From: Volokh, Eugene <vol...@law.ucla.edu>
Subject: RE: Wisconsin convicts parents for denial of medical treatment
To: "'Law & Religion issues for Law Academics'" <religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu>
Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2009, 7:03 PM

        Hmm -- is there any evidence supporting the proposition that 
recognizing women's rights has indeed caused greater recognition of children's 
rights?  I would think that many people would see the two as very different 
matters; we've had over 150 years in many states of Married Women's Property 
Acts, for instance, but I take it that most people are quite comfortable with 
parents' having considerable control over their children's property (though not 
unlimited control in certain circumstances, to be sure).  Now perhaps the 
theory below is indeed correct -- I guess I'm just skeptical unless there's 
some clearer evidence.

        Eugene

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> I share the same experiences as Alan mentions.  Part of what we are dealing 
> with
> here are the consequences of the women's rights movement.  As women's status
> has moved from property to persons, so has children's though more 
> slowly.   The
> status assumptions color judgments about proper parenting  - as well as proper
> treatment of spouses.
> Marci
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