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The list custodian From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu [mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Len Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 4:26 PM To: Mark Scarberry; Law & Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: Re: A right not to be compelled to create expression? Regardless of the models, I did not pay thousands for my photos. A few hundred for the graduation photos, and a few hundred for the wedding photos 30 years ago. It is my understanding that the studio protects all photos by way of copyright that are posted and accessed via its website services. That condition would make sense, as it protects the clients as well as itself. However, that was a service I wasn't interested in, and purchased one of their more traditional packages. How interesting that my experience was so unusual. So, in your opinion, I retain copyright to the oil-on-canvas portraits I was commissioned to do in the mid 1970's? Interesting. True, there aren't many (seven) and I was paid cash, but I was able to eat and to put gas in my place of lodging. Would I now be able to demand access to these works, photograph them and use them in a portfolio? I apologize to all, but I've had some disappointing experience with intellectual property rights. A firm I worked for many years ago demanded that I sign over rights to a R&D project I had worked on for two years, in exchange for wages already paid. I had not been under such an agreement up until that time. The license to that work was then sold to a high-profile client for an amount in the low seven figures. The firm's attorney threatened me with legal action if I did not sign off and accept the token $1. I did, and was terminated three weeks later. My name remains on six of the patents, however. To me they're worth exactly the value of the paper they're printed on. I have been required to sign over intellectual property rights as a condition of hire ever since. The conditions even include any items I might design or invent on my own time that are unrelated to the company's business. Many people I've worked with have also had to sign non-compete clauses, which have kept talented (and well-paid) engineers out of work for years, effectively ending their careers. I therefore don't have a high regard for such laws. More relevant to the topic, I think it is rather sad and pathetic that the work of an artisan who mechanically produces work for hire is considered to be on par with an artist who produces creative work. This lumps in and treats as equals the neighborhood photographer with Annie Leibovitz and Ansel Adams. Producing memorabilia is not art, it is a craft. I'm sure all present know the difference, or should. I understand what the laws say and have read the commentaries with great interest. In my opinion mere competence with a camera is not art. Art, and therefore speech is something else. I'm sure no one here will mind that I don't repeat the obvious Dickensian reference. Thanks for your patience. -Z
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