Point taken about business with six or ten or some other small number of employees.
If the Oregon ballot initiative had not been withdrawn, there would have been political talk about Hilton Hotels not doing gay wedding receptions, and how the law would protect that. That sort of problem is a non-issue; no large business with diverse ownership could be expected to act in such a way. The statutory language that a group of us have proposed would protect businesses in which “services . . . are primarily performed by an owner,” or that have five or fewer employees. Any precise limit is arbitrary; there is no good reason for five employees instead of ten employees. If we erred, it was obviously on the low side, and even so, the proposal has gone nowhere in blue states. While the precise limit is arbitrary, the reason for focusing on very small businesses is principled. We are trying to capture businesses that are personal extensions of the owner, in which the owner feels morally responsible for everything that goes on in the business, and outside observers can understand that. No doubt some owners feel morally responsible for everything that goes on in their business no matter how large the business grows, but it is hard to verify that. And just as we can accommodate the religious needs of an employee by assigning the task to a different employee, so the owner with many employees can assign a task to some of them and remove himself from participation. And of course, as a business grows in size, the government’s claim of compelling interest grows proportionately. Hobby Lobby is a special case in my view, because the religiously prohibited act must necessarily take place at corporate headquarters as a decision for the entire business. This is not something that can be delegated to a clerk or a store manager in an individual store somewhere; this is a decision the owners must make themselves. I have a brief due next week and will likely not respond to further comments. Douglas Laycock Robert E. Scott Distinguished Professor of Law University of Virginia Law School 580 Massie Road Charlottesville, VA 22903 434-243-8546 From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu [mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of James Oleske Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 1:22 PM To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: Size Limits on Businesses That Can Obtain Religious Exemptions (was "Oregon Ballot Title: Religious Exemptions & Same-Sex Couples") I agree that the lack of a size limit in the (now-abandoned) Oregon initiative would have made the measure a tough sell politically, but I'm not sure I agree that including a size limit would be "irrelevant in practice." The size limit in the current version of the academic proposal for marriage-facilitation exemptions is 5 employees (or 5 units for landlords). Including that limit in exemption legislation would appear to exclude one of the wedding vendors most frequently invoked by exemption proponents, Arlene's Flowers in Washington State, which had grown to 10 employees by 2010. That same size limit might also preclude an exemption for another frequently discussed vendor, the Gortz Haus in Iowa, which according to at least one business database is classified as having between 10-19 employees. Can a size limit that would exclude businesses like Arlene's Flowers and the Gortz Haus (or bakeries that grow to 6 employees, or landlords that rent 6 units, or employers ranging from 6 employees to the size of Hobby Lobby that don't want to provide spousal health benefits to same-sex couples) really be deemed irrelevant in practice given the live cases involving such businesses? As for whether the lack of a size limit in the Oregon initiative represents overreaching in principle, it's worth noting that (1) the original version of the academic proposal did not include a size limit on businesses eligible for exemptions, (2) the currently proposed federal "Marriage and Religious Freedom Act" -- which is supported by the Catholic Bishops and the Southern Baptists, and has over 100 co-sponsors, including former Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Orrin Hatch -- does not include a size limit on businesses eligible for exemptions, and (3) academic supporters of Hobby Lobby have argued that size limits on exemptions for businesses are akin to historic religious persecution. Of course, one could conclude (as do I) that all of these proposals and arguments represent overreaching by seeking a novel extension of religious exemptions into the for-profit commercial realm. Or one could conclude (as do others) that all of these proposals and arguments represent reasonable efforts to protect religious liberty in the commercial realm without arbitrary size limits. But it's not clear to me how the lack of size limits in the Oregon proposal can be distinguished on principle from the other proposals and arguments against size limits. - Jim On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 3:12 PM, Douglas Laycock <dlayc...@virginia.edu <mailto:dlayc...@virginia.edu> > wrote: No size limit on the businesses to be exempted, and no exception for local monopolies, is stupid politics, and I think, wrong in principle. The lack of a size limit is also irrelevant in practice, because large businesses wouldn’t be claiming these exemptions even if they were available. But lack of a size limit is likely to be devastating on the political front. This would probably be a tough sell in Oregon even if it were more sensibly drafted. As it is, I can’t believe it has much of a chance. It’s not always clear whether the worst enemies of religious liberty are the secular activists who oppose it and minimize it, or the religious activists who are forever over reaching and making fat targets of themselves. Douglas Laycock Robert E. Scott Distinguished Professor of Law University of Virginia Law School 580 Massie Road Charlottesville, VA 22903 434-243-8546 <tel:434-243-8546> From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu <mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu> [mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu <mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu> ] On Behalf Of James Oleske Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 5:51 PM To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: Oregon Ballot Title: Religious Exemptions & Same-Sex Couples Yesterday, the Oregon Supreme Court certified the ballot title for a proposed citizen initiative that would provide religious exemptions from anti-discrimination laws to business owners who decline to provide certain services to same-sex couples. The title that will appear on the November ballot if proponents of the initiative gather the requisite number of signatures by early July is as follows: *** "Religious belief" exceptions to anti-discrimination laws for refusing services, other, for same-sex ceremonies, "arrangements" Result of "Yes" Vote: "Yes" vote creates "religious belief" exceptions to anti discrimination laws for refusals to provide services/facilities/goods for same-sex marriage/partnership ceremonies, and their "arrangements" Result of "No" Vote: "No" vote rejects "religious belief" exceptions to anti discrimination laws for refusals regarding same-sex ceremonies, "arrangements"; retains exemptions for churches/religious institutions, constitutional protections. Summary: Current laws prohibit discrimination based on sexual orientation in public accommodations (businesses offering services/facilities/goods), employment, housing; contain certain exemptions for churches/religious institutions. State/federal constitutions protect free exercise of religion. Measure creates “religious belief” exceptions to anti-discrimination laws for refusing services/facilities/goods/other, for same-sex ceremonies, arrangements. Prohibits administrative enforcement, penalties, civil actions against “person” (defined as including individuals, corporations, other business entities) acting in nongovernmental capacity, for refusing to “celebrate, participate in, facilitate, or support” any same-sex marriage, civil union, domestic partnership ceremony or its arrangements, if doing so violates the person’s “deeply held religious beliefs.” “Deeply held religious beliefs”; “participate”; “facilitate”; “support”; “ceremony or its arrangements”; “nongovernmental” undefined. Measure to be construed broadly for protection of religious exercise. *** Unlike the Arizona law that garnered so much attention earlier this year, the Oregon initiative is not a RFRA expansion (there is no state RFRA here), but rather, an exemption proposal explicitly directed at services for same-sex couples. Some of the language in the initiative borrows from the leading academic proposal for religious exemptions to same-sex marriage laws, but there are significant differences. Most notably, the Oregon initiative is not limited to small businesses and it's operative language only allows refusals of service to same-sex couples (the operative language of the academic proposal would allow refusals of service to all religiously opposed marriages, although proponents have suggested that legislatures could exempt interracial marriages from the exemption). I have argued elsewhere (http://papers.ssrn.com/abstract=2400100) that the academic exemption proposal would be vulnerable to equal protection challenge if enacted by a state, and presumably the facial discrimination in the Oregon initiative would only increase the odds of an equal protection challenge. Of course, that prospect will only materialize if (1) the proponents of the exemption measure decide to move forward despite receiving a ballot title they view as unfavorable and (2) the voters pass the measure. Text of Oregon Exemption Initiative: https://www.oregonfamilycouncil.org/2013/11/21/protect-religous-freedom-initiative/ Oregonian Story on Supreme Court Decision, with Link to Ballot Title: http://www.oregonlive.com/mapes/index.ssf/2014/05/gay_marriage_court_settles_bal.html#incart_m-rpt-1 Academic Exemption Proposal: Robin Fretwell Wilson, The Calculus of Accommodation: Contraception, Abortion, Same- Sex Marriage, and Other Clashes Between Religion and the State, 53 B.C. L. REV. 1417, 1512-13 (2012) (providing text of the proposal) & http://mirrorofjustice.blogs.com/mirrorofjustice/2009/08/memosletters-on-religious-liberty-and-samesex-marriage.html (collecting letters in support of the proposal) - Jim
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