I appreciate Micah's point, which is why I think it's important that the underlying Equal Protection Clause analysis seems to already allow a good deal of sex discrimination for privacy reasons, but not, say, race or religious discrimination. We all agree, I take it, that it's pretty clearly constitutional to have single-sex shower rooms, but not single-race or single-religion ones. The Equal Protection Clause questions, in my view, are (1) whether government should be able to use same-sex programs to protect privacy (in the modesty sense) even in situations where the privacy concerns are not shared by the national majority, though felt deeply by a minority, and (2) whether the religious motivation of the minority should be an extra justification to allow such same-sex programs (which already aren't that far from same-sex programs that are generally allowed). I'm not sure what the answer is to these questions, but I think these are the right questions.
Here, by the way, is the passage from Livingwell, https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=11920620329987807595, in which a Pennsylvania appellate court dealt with the similar (though I agree not identical) question of whether single-sex health clubs satisfy the bona fide public accommodation qualification exception from Pennsylvania sex discrimination law: LivingWell contends that their customers have a legitimate privacy interest in exercising in a single sex club because exercising focuses upon aspects of their figures which they wish to improve. While doing the exercises to reshape their figures, they expose parts of the body about which they are most sensitive, assume awkward and compromising positions, and move themselves in a way which would embarrass them if men were present. The Commission contends, however, that the nature of the privacy interest advanced here is not entitled to protection because no matter how awkward or compromising the position a person finds her or himself in while exercising, there is no protected privacy issue unless an "intimate area" of the body is actually exposed. The Commission argues that customer "modesty" preferences not commonly held by society are irrelevant to justify a gender-based discrimination. Simply because all the cases until now have discussed the exposure of or touching of "intimate areas" of the body does not mean that each gender lacks a privacy interest in all other situations. The problem in determining what is "protected" is that societal conduct in this area is not consistent or rational. What we believe is private, humiliates us or makes us uncomfortable comes from societal norms and standards of conduct. What is "acceptable" in that context is based on time, place and circumstances. For example, individuals who would wear generally acceptable revealing attire at the beach or pool would likely be totally humiliated to be seen walking down a public street in their much less revealing nightwear. What this indicates is that in relation to one's body, there are societal norms, i.e., a spectrum of modesty, which one either follows or respects, and if one is required to breach a modesty value, one becomes humiliated or mortified.... Just because "intimate areas" of these women's bodies are not exposed does not mean that they do not have a privacy interest worthy of recognition. The uncontroverted evidence is that if men were admitted, these women would suffer from extreme embarrassment, anxiety or stress and would not continue to exercise at LivingWell. The standard for recognizing a privacy interest as it relates to one's body is not limited to protecting one where there is an exposure of an "intimate area," but such a right may also be recognized where one has a reasonable basis to be protected against embarrassment or suffer a loss of dignity because of the activity taking place. The Commission believes that the privacy interest is not justifiable and these women have no reasonable basis to feel embarrassed because society as a whole would not find it objectionable to exercise with the opposite sex. Privacy interests are not determined by the lowest common denominator of modesty that society considers appropriate. What is determinative is whether a reasonable person would find that person's claimed privacy interest legitimate and sincere, even though not commonly held. Nothing in the record supports nor does the Commission seriously challenge that these women do not sincerely hold these beliefs or that a reasonable person would not find these beliefs legitimate. Even if a privacy right exists, whether that privacy interest is worthy of protection is determined by balancing that interest against any harm caused to the excluded men. The only harm the Commission advances is that the men will not be allowed to exercise at certain LivingWell locations. However, the Commission admits that there are other facilities just as convenient where men can exercise in a coed environment. Unlike gender discrimination that would result in the non-hiring of males, or where an exercise establishment has other facilities where business or "networking" is conducted, no harm exists to any male by being excluded from LivingWell's facilities.... Do people think that this is a plausible interpretation of the bona fide qualification exception from state bans on discrimination in places of public accommodation (including private places)? If so, do people think that this would likewise be a defense to an Equal Protection Clause claim, when the place is owned by the government? Eugene From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu [mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Schwartzman, Micah Jacob (mjs4d) Sent: Friday, June 03, 2016 8:27 AM To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics <religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu> Subject: Re: "Religious diversity" as a compelling interest for discrimination in universities? Is the argument for this accommodation based on religious concerns about privacy/modesty limited to gender discrimination? Suppose a religious group believes that, for reasons of modesty, its members should only swim with coreligionists of the same sex. Could the city adopt a policy excluding (for a couple hours) everyone who isn't a member of that religion on the ground that it has a significant interest in promoting water safety? Or on the ground that it has a significant interest in providing access to public benefits for all taxpayers? Or does exclusion based on religion, rather than gender, fail because it triggers strict (and not intermediate) scrutiny? Promoting water safety/taxpayer access is significant but not compelling? On Jun 2, 2016, at 11:28 PM, Volokh, Eugene wrote: Again, I wonder whether sex-separate swimming really "screams inconsistent with every case on the books." Consider, for instance, United States v. Virginia, where Justice Ginsburg's majority opinion stated that "Admitting women to VMI would undoubtedly require alterations necessary to afford members of each sex privacy from the other sex in living arrangements," n.19 - not just in bathrooms, I take it, but also in barracks / roommate arrangements and the like. Indeed, the opinion left open the possibility that single-sex education may generally be constitutional (except when it denies women access to "unique" colleges such as VMI, so that the separateness is not equal), n.7. Would we draw "an interesting parallel to racism" here, or would we conclude that sex is different enough from race, especially when it comes to "privacy"? And, if so, why would accommodation of slightly different notions of sex-based privacy - such as those applicable to swimming rather than to "living arrangements" - necessarily be excluded? Eugene
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