Anyone listened to the latest Gordon West, WB6NOA audio CDs for the tech class license?
Happened to sit it on a tech licensing class a couple months ago... If I recall correctly, the verbiage he (WB6NOA) used while demonstrating repeaters was "first, we'll key it up to see if it's on"... I'll have to grab that particular CD and listen to it over again - the 90+ minutes on just repeater operation tends to make me glaze over... If Gordo is teaching that kerchunking is OK.... :) And from a legal standpoint, 97.119(a) states "... at the end of each communication, and at least every ten minutes during a communication...". While a "communication" is not clearly defined in 97.3(a), it could be surmised that it would be in the course of a conversation in which two Amateurs exchange information for as long as the "communication" continues until that "communication" comes to a close. Reading very loosely between the lines, if one kerchunks the repeater 7 minutes before a net starts, and subsequently properly identifies during the net check in prior to the elapsed 10 minutes, they *could* be fulfilling the identification requirements set forth in 97.119(a). HOWEVER... It is likely not good amateur practice or etiquette to do so. On the flip side of it, I'm not going to send a FSD-213 for someone that occasionally kerchunks the repeater prior to making a contact or verifying their radio is programmed correctly. I will, however, continue to treat malicious interference as a prohibited act as defined (loosely) in 97.101(d). 73s, AJ, K6LOR/R On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 8:39 AM, Joe <k1ike_m...@snet.net> wrote: > Legally, you should be identifying by giving your call. But, that is > inviting a conversation with whoever hears you. One of the repeaters > here has a ham who hangs around constantly. Sometimes I chose not to > talk to him, but just want to check and see if the repeater is on the > air and OK. (I help maintain the repeater). Yes, I am guilty of > illegal kerchunking. > > An antikerchunk filter that shortens the repeater tail time can make > things worse. The kerchunker does not hear the tail come back to > him/her, so they keep on trying. All the other users hear many short > bursts of carrier. Much more annoying than a single kerchunk. > > I actually like to hear kerchuncks. That means that there are users out > there tuned to my repeaters. With so much dead air time on repeaters > lately, it's nice to know there is "someone home" out there. When I > hear a kerchunker I will usually key up and sign my call to see if they > want to talk or get a signal report. Sometimes (alot) they don't come > back to me. Maybe I too am one of those "repeater trolls" that no one > wants to talk too! Oh well, such is life, I never built repeaters to > win a popularity contest. > > 73, Joe, K1ike > > > Dave Gomberg wrote: > > > > I admit that on occasion I have thought of kerchunking because I > > check into several nets where I am at the limit of the repeater's > > coverage. I would kerchunk to see if I am in range or need to move > > a bit. I am attempting to take as little resource as > > possible. Would it be better for me to give my call, hope someone > > comes back, and ask for a signal report? > > > > > > > > > > >
